Dyer student in trouble for saying 'bless you'
Aug 21, 2014 08:51:00 #
This should create a bit of controversy!
http://www.thedailytimes.com/news/state_region/dyer-student-in-trouble-for-saying-bless-you/article_de4bbf23-d96c-5cd3-ad1d-0632db3d447a.html
http://www.thedailytimes.com/news/state_region/dyer-student-in-trouble-for-saying-bless-you/article_de4bbf23-d96c-5cd3-ad1d-0632db3d447a.html
Aug 21, 2014 09:01:08 #
Well, I certainly don't have a problem with the kid saying "bless you" when another student sneezed, but I do have a problem with this statement she made after the incident:
"I want God to be able to be talked about in school," she said. "I want them to realize that God is in control and they're not."
The discussion of God and religion should not be a part of the school day at any public school. Her belief in God in no way trumps the beliefs of someone else, yet she appears to believe that it should.
If she'd have just kept her mouth shut after the incident, I would agree that they were over-reacting. Given her statement afterwards, though, it shows she has an agenda, and that agenda is something that doesn't belong in a public school...
"I want God to be able to be talked about in school," she said. "I want them to realize that God is in control and they're not."
The discussion of God and religion should not be a part of the school day at any public school. Her belief in God in no way trumps the beliefs of someone else, yet she appears to believe that it should.
If she'd have just kept her mouth shut after the incident, I would agree that they were over-reacting. Given her statement afterwards, though, it shows she has an agenda, and that agenda is something that doesn't belong in a public school...
Aug 21, 2014 09:07:40 #
You are taking the term "separation of Church and State" too literal.
This country was founded on the belief in God. If she would have said "praise allah" then she should be thrown out of school.
This country was founded on the belief in God. If she would have said "praise allah" then she should be thrown out of school.
Aug 21, 2014 09:08:35 #
That is only because people in that county ( and many others ) don't have balls to back him up.
Aug 21, 2014 09:20:30 #
tradio wrote:
You are taking the term "separation of Church and State" too literal.
This country was founded on the belief in God.
This country was founded on the belief in God.
This is a pretty silly response. You should go get yourself another cup of coffee.
This country was founded by men who largely professed a belief in God, but they were actually quite mindful to not make this a country founded upon those beliefs.
If this were a Christian country, I'm pretty damn sure the Founding Fathers would've ensured that "God" was mentioned. The closest they came to that was use of the word "Creator", and that means different things to different people...
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If she would have said "praise allah" then she should be thrown out of school.
And this proves my point.
One of our great freedoms is one of religious freedom. You can choose to believe in God, and that belief is no more or less valid than the belief of someone who chooses to believe something else.
If you want to allow one little girl to be able to refer to "God" in the public school, then that can only happen if you also allow another little girl to refer to "Allah" in public school.
If you don't want that, send your kid to a private religious school which has values and beliefs more in line with your own...
Aug 21, 2014 09:21:35 #
Aug 21, 2014 09:40:07 #
A kid sneezed...
A kid said 'bless you'...
If I was in that class, there would have been two 'bless you's.
END OF STORY
A kid said 'bless you'...
If I was in that class, there would have been two 'bless you's.
END OF STORY
Aug 21, 2014 09:45:25 #
C.R.
Loc: United States of Confusion
everyone takes the separation of church and state wrong. the amendment precludes the state from establishing a church, which the colonists had fled during the founding of the country. no state run religion is what the amendment is about
Aug 21, 2014 15:46:31 #
New York Steve wrote:
Well, I certainly don't have a problem with the ki... (show quote)
Since this all started with a very common and courteous "bless you" after a sneeze.....this whole incident is really stupid.
Whether or not she has/had an agenda....she was questioned by the teacher and it was appropriate for her to resond.
Aug 21, 2014 15:51:45 #
Aug 21, 2014 16:41:47 #
chrisscholbe wrote:
Since this all started with a very common and courteous "bless you" after a sneeze.....this whole incident is really stupid.
Whether or not she has/had an agenda....she was questioned by the teacher and it was appropriate for her to resond.
Whether or not she has/had an agenda....she was questioned by the teacher and it was appropriate for her to resond.
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Aug 21, 2014 18:50:36 #
New York Steve wrote:
Well, I certainly don't have a problem with the ki... (show quote)
Your complete inability to understand the constitution apparently leads to the misunderstanding of many other things, most notably that this is an innocent child who has been raised to believe in God. The person with an "agenda" here is certainly the teacher, and not the student who had been taught basic manners. When will we start allowing our children to be children instead of subjecting them to the progressive liberal manifesto?
Aug 21, 2014 18:58:33 #
New York Steve wrote:
Well, I certainly don't have a problem with the ki... (show quote)
I agree completely Steve and was going to respond the same way.
It seems Miss Kendra is starting out the school year just swimmingly.
Aug 21, 2014 21:08:18 #
tradio wrote:
You are taking the term "separation of Church and State" too literal.
This country was founded on the belief in God. If she would have said "praise allah" then she should be thrown out of school.
This country was founded on the belief in God. If she would have said "praise allah" then she should be thrown out of school.
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Aug 21, 2014 21:19:13 #
tradio wrote:
You are taking the term "separation of Church and State" too literal.
This country was founded on the belief in God. If she would have said "praise allah" then she should be thrown out of school.
This country was founded on the belief in God. If she would have said "praise allah" then she should be thrown out of school.
No, I imagine you want us to follow the Constitution exactly. The founders were not religious and did not want religion mixing with the state, this includes any organization run by the state including schools. Anyone should be able to praise whatever diety they choose. This girl did not do this innocently, she went shooting her mouth of to her church, she should make a great impression when she attends college. Religion belongs in the church or at home, a lot of people don't want to hear other people's fairy tales.
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