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Aug 21, 2014 08:51:31   #
Atomicmechanic Loc: Corinth New York
 
What's wrong with using the best parts to build a camera or anything else? Harley's put Bosch magnetos on their motorcycles way back in the 1910's. I would rather purchase any major item built with the best parts, rather than something quickly thrown together to make a quick buck. I'm not ashamed to be seen shooting with my Canon, Nikon, or Fuji cameras. After all, it's the image, the end result that matters. That image being the best I can take without manipulating it on a computer. I would rather think that the images posted in magazines, billboards, family albums is what gives a camera and a company a reputation. Shoot On.

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Aug 21, 2014 09:01:09   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Atomicmechanic wrote:
What's wrong with using the best parts to build a camera or anything else? Harley's put Bosch magnetos on their motorcycles way back in the 1910's. I would rather purchase any major item built with the best parts, rather than something quickly thrown together to make a quick buck. I'm not ashamed to be seen shooting with my Canon, Nikon, or Fuji cameras. After all, it's the image, the end result that matters. That image being the best I can take without manipulating it on a computer. I would rather think that the images posted in magazines, billboards, family albums is what gives a camera and a company a reputation. Shoot On.
What's wrong with using the best parts to build a ... (show quote)


Yes, but Bosch never built motorcycles!

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Aug 21, 2014 09:10:40   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Nikonian72 wrote:

As a watch collector I couldn't help but notice you watermark. Wish I could afford a Breguet Tourbillion. But the 2 or 3 hundred grand is way out of my league.

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Aug 21, 2014 09:41:58   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Yup, can't beat those Nikon optics! In the late '30's and early '40's, while Canon was still trying to build it's camera business Nikon was already churning out an endless stream of excellent bomb sites, periscopes and naval range finders! With all that experience no wonder Canon chose their lenses for their early cameras. :)

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Aug 21, 2014 10:36:51   #
JohnM Loc: Springfield, Illinois
 
RWR wrote:
In the beginning, Canon was known for the quality of the lenses they put on their cameras.


I have 4 lenses for my AE 1. The 50 mm says Canon but the other 3 from macro to telephoto zoom with auto focus were made by TOYO OPTICS. As I recall ( and its been a longgggggggg time) they all worked really well.

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Aug 21, 2014 10:48:18   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
"In the beginning, Canon was known for the quality of the lenses they put on their cameras."

In the beginning there was a pinhole...

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Aug 21, 2014 11:23:14   #
Rickyb
 
That's history. Today's times are much different and productions values have changed. It is up to your own likes and experiences. I have owned many Nikons and have drawers filled with bodies and lenses both film and digital. I now use Canon.

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Aug 21, 2014 13:09:19   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
I've had one of each Nikon and Canon rangefinder cameras in the late 1950s and also an Asahiflex when those first came out. But I don't remember which lens was which (except for the Asahi.)

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Aug 21, 2014 13:15:06   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
RWR wrote:
In the beginning, Canon was known for the quality of the lenses they put on their cameras.


Goes to show that with experience Canon just grows, keeps getting better and leaves early mistakes in the past.

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Aug 21, 2014 13:19:04   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Goes to show that with experience Canon just grows, keeps getting better and leaves early mistakes in the past.


Then explain these:

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They still use Nikons F mount in their industrial cameras:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/03/24/Canon-ditches-EF-mount-for-Nikon-F-mount-...

http://petapixel.com/2014/03/24/canons-m15p-cl-offers-monochrome-sensor-nikon-f-mount/

Nothing like openly admitting where to find the best optics!

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Aug 21, 2014 13:40:12   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Then explain these:





MT Shooter wrote:
Nothing like openly admitting where to find the best optics!


Actually (if you had read the article you linked to) it is a foot in the door. In business it is a variation on a loss leader. It allows industry to buy into the better system (Canon) without replacing their current lenses at the start. As Canon dominates takes this market over time, there will be a shift in available mounts.

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Aug 21, 2014 13:42:49   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Actually (if you had read the article you linked to) it is a foot in the door. In business it is a variation on a loss leader. It allows industry to buy into the better system (Canon) without replacing their current lenses at the start. As Canon dominates takes this market over time, there will be a shift in available mounts.


Actually, I did read the article. Pay attention to Canons reasoning. They cannot sell lenses in this market as it is totally dominated by Nikon, they just want to try to grab a little piece of it.,

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Aug 21, 2014 13:51:16   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Yes you are right Nikkor was only optical company if memory serves me right I believe it was sometime later in history that Nikon came about.


Nikonian72 wrote:
This image shows a Nikkor lens, manufactured by Nikon Company, which supplied Canon with lenses for several years.

Early Canon history:
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/history/canon_story/1933_1936/1933_1936.html
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/history/canon_story/1937_1945/1937_1945.html

1935: Canon's very first camera, the Hansa Kwanon, used a Nikkor lens. Canon didn't make lenses in the 1930s and 1940s, and instead got them from Nikon. Nikon didn't make cameras until the late 1940s, so no problem. per http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/50mm-f14-afs.htm

The first (Nikkor) camera lens for the 35mm format was produced in 1934 for the Hansa Kwanon Company, known these days as Canon. per http://books.google.com/books?id=u4rXBqSmjPAC&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=Canon+%22Hansa+Kwanon%22&source=bl&ots=q15f7Fp7ms&sig=tgLvXunARjpGuXl82lz_yLe-X40&hl=en&sa=X&ei=P071U4GJOpe2ogTxwIGYBA&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Canon%20%22Hansa%20Kwanon%22&f=false
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Aug 21, 2014 13:51:16   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Actually, I did read the article. Pay attention to Canons reasoning. They cannot sell lenses in this market as it is totally dominated by Nikon, they just want to try to grab a little piece of it.,


To start with.

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Aug 21, 2014 13:58:29   #
Bill MN Loc: Western MN
 
dsmeltz wrote:
To start with.

Don't argue with MT. He knows more than you will ever know dsmeltz.

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