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Aug 18, 2014 10:32:45   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
This vid clip captures the discussion of an eyewitness to the shooting explaining to his friends what he saw occur leading up to and including the moments that Michael Brown was shot.

Now I am not going to take sides on this issue, but this eye witness description of the events is far different than those we have so far heard coming out of Ferguson.

Quote:
@6:28/6:29 of video
#1 How’d he get from there to there?
#2 Because he ran, the police was still in the truck – cause he was like over the truck
{crosstalk}
#2 But him and the police was both in the truck, then he ran – the police got out and ran after him
{crosstalk}
#2 Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –
(there is dispute here whether he says "doubled back" or "coming back." )
#1. Oh, the police got his gun
#2 The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him
{crosstalk}
#2 Police fired shots – the next thing I know – the police was missing
#1 The Police?
#2 The Police shot him
#1 Police?
#2 The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him)


This is terribly important because if Mike Brown had been shot, and he advanced towards the cop instead of surrendering, it would substantiate the narrative that the policeman shot in self-defense due to the fact that he was being threatened with severe bodily harm. This corroborates an account of the event given by a friend of Officer Darren Wilson:

Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something.”

It’s far too unlikely that these two accounts are similar accidentally, having been from such disparate sources. The apparent witness in the background conversation is speaking with detail about the tragic shooting, and in a manner that runs contrary to the widespread version. Those who watch the video need to judge for themselves if the witness sounds reliable (but he would seemingly have nothing to gain by telling such a story.)
@6:28/6:29 of video br #1 How’d he get from there ... (show quote)


http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-eyewitness-recalls-important-detail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/

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Aug 18, 2014 10:45:43   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
This vid clip captures the discussion of an eyewitness to the shooting explaining to his friends what he saw occur leading up to and including the moments that Michael Brown was shot.

Now I am not going to take sides on this issue, but this eye witness description of the events is far different than those we have so far heard coming out of Ferguson.



http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-eyewitness-recalls-important-detail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/


With the help of this video, this case may be closed sooner. It sure compromises what the original witnesses (witlesses) claim.

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Aug 18, 2014 10:57:37   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
It is a wholly different picture than that of a young man with his hands up don't shoot, don't shoot. It is one of a 6'4" 290 pound giant rushing a police officer, a giant who had already shown a propensity for resisting with violence. If this video can be substantiated and the witness found then things begin to look very very different than they do right now.

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Aug 18, 2014 11:15:04   #
HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO
 
Costly education at the expense of a bullet.

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Aug 18, 2014 11:36:03   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
Since the "feds" are strategically entrenched in this case, under Holder's direction, things may go an entirely different direction. Holder has not been subtle in displaying his extreme bias in the past, and is not likely to change now. He has control of all the forensics, so the case will likely follow his wishes. I doubt this will have much in common with the Martin/Zimmerman case.

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Aug 18, 2014 14:16:37   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Danilo wrote:
Since the "feds" are strategically entrenched in this case, under Holder's direction, things may go an entirely different direction. Holder has not been subtle in displaying his extreme bias in the past, and is not likely to change now. He has control of all the forensics, so the case will likely follow his wishes. I doubt this will have much in common with the Martin/Zimmerman case.


I don't like the civil rights infraction laws or the hate crime laws, in some cases it almost could be considered as double jeopardy. Consider if the officer is found innocent of murder but then Holder and crew come in and try him on a civil rights beef simply because they were unhappy with the verdict. That came close to happening in the Zimmerman case.

And "Hate Crimes" make no sense to me whatsoever. If someone murders your wife what difference does it make if he murdered her because she was black or white or whatever, you want that sob prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, as if racial intent somehow makes murder more heinous.

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Aug 18, 2014 14:41:36   #
handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I don't like the civil rights infraction laws or the hate crime laws, in some cases it almost could be considered as double jeopardy. Consider if the officer is found innocent of murder but then Holder and crew come in and try him on a civil rights beef simply because they were unhappy with the verdict. That came close to happening in the Zimmerman case.

And "Hate Crimes" make no sense to me whatsoever. If someone murders your wife what difference does it make if he murdered her because she was black or white or whatever, you want that sob prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, as if racial intent somehow makes murder more heinous.
I don't like the civil rights infraction laws or t... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 18, 2014 15:12:11   #
FrumCA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
It is a wholly different picture than that of a young man with his hands up don't shoot, don't shoot. It is one of a 6'4" 290 pound giant rushing a police officer, a giant who had already shown a propensity for resisting with violence. If this video can be substantiated and the witness found then things begin to look very very different than they do right now.

Not only this, but the video of him robbing/shoplifting the store is also pretty damning.

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Aug 19, 2014 13:22:20   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I don't like the civil rights infraction laws or the hate crime laws, in some cases it almost could be considered as double jeopardy. Consider if the officer is found innocent of murder but then Holder and crew come in and try him on a civil rights beef simply because they were unhappy with the verdict. That came close to happening in the Zimmerman case.

And "Hate Crimes" make no sense to me whatsoever. If someone murders your wife what difference does it make if he murdered her because she was black or white or whatever, you want that sob prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, as if racial intent somehow makes murder more heinous.
I don't like the civil rights infraction laws or t... (show quote)


Adding a year to an assault & battery conviction because the victim is gay is a slap in the face to all straight people. And why should a civil rights conviction NOT require a unanimous jury verdict? Disparity, thy name is disparity...

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Aug 19, 2014 16:38:57   #
wingincamera Loc: Spanaway, Washington
 
Another thing to ponder. It is reported that the officer might not have known at the time that Brown was the person who just committed the strong arm robbery of the store. But Brown would not know that the officer might not be aware of his involvement in the crime. It would seem logical that Brown would have thought the Officer stopped him because of the crime, and didn't want to be arrested.

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Aug 19, 2014 17:10:31   #
handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
 
wingincamera wrote:
Another thing to ponder. It is reported that the officer might not have known at the time that Brown was the person who just committed the strong arm robbery of the store. But Brown would not know that the officer might not be aware of his involvement in the crime. It would seem logical that Brown would have thought the Officer stopped him because of the crime, and didn't want to be arrested.

What is to ponder? If a rhino were charging me I would either shoot like hell or run like hell. I don't believe it is in an officer's training to run.

I believe that Michael wanted to establish himself in the gangbanger society to his peers and did so not by making himself established but by making himself a maytyr. He suceeded.

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Aug 19, 2014 17:17:09   #
ahancock
 
Drudge report reported that the officer had an orbital blowout fracture. This would require a pretty serious blow to the eye.

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Aug 19, 2014 17:24:50   #
FrumCA
 
ahancock wrote:
Drudge report reported that the officer had an orbital blowout fracture. This would require a pretty serious blow to the eye.

If this is true the emerging evidence is clearly getting in the way of reports from the alleged 'witnesses'. I wonder how Eric Holder's racial biases are going to impact the investigation(s).

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Aug 19, 2014 17:54:13   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
FrumCA wrote:
If this is true the emerging evidence is clearly getting in the way of reports from the alleged 'witnesses'. I wonder how Eric Holder's racial biases are going to impact the investigation(s).


Let's hope the lying witlesses are thrown in prison for a lengthy stay.

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Aug 19, 2014 19:21:38   #
SHLeM52 Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
NeilL wrote:
Let's hope the lying witlesses are thrown in prison for a lengthy stay.


Yeah, along with Al Sharpton for whippng everyone into a racial frenzy.

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