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Kenko Extension Tubes for Nikon
Aug 14, 2014 13:46:04   #
bearwitme Loc: VA, USA
 
Hi Everyone..

I am interested in the Kenko Extension Tubes for Nikon, but think the the $200.00 price is a little steep. Has anyone tried another brand that is not as costly that works as well. I see DG and Non DG.. What is the difference..I can't seem to find anything on it..Thanks in advance...

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Aug 14, 2014 13:54:38   #
TREBOR77 Loc: Winchester Kentucky
 
I have the NIKON ones and they do a really good job....

The cost is not very much for the set.....

also shop used at the big online stores ot at a local camera store.... usually used ones don't have much wear....not used everyday...just my opinion....been shooting 63 yrs

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Aug 14, 2014 14:14:34   #
jlrivera Loc: Round Lake, Illinois
 
bearwitme wrote:
Hi Everyone..

I am interested in the Kenko Extension Tubes for Nikon, but think the the $200.00 price is a little steep. Has anyone tried another brand that is not as costly that works as well. I see DG and Non DG.. What is the difference..I can't seem to find anything on it..Thanks in advance...

I have the n-af Zeikos digital AF macro extension tubes. They work in auto focus with my Nikon 18-105mm; 55-300mm; 105mm.
http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-CVAFN-Focus-Macro-Extension/dp/B003IVZVDO

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Aug 14, 2014 14:22:56   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
I use Canon gear instead of Nikon, but have the Kenko tube set to use with it. I also have a few Canon OEM tubes.

The Kenko tubes are top quality, equal to what Canon themselves offer, but cheaper when you buy the set. Canon only sells individual tubes... 12mm for about $85 and 25mm for roughly $140, "street" prices new. The Kenko set includes 12mm, 20mm and 36mm, and currently is available new for $178 in the Canon mount.

There are cheaper. Both Opteka and Zeikos make sets that sell for $100 or less, but are a lot more plasticky than the OEM or Kenko. Note: the Zeikos sell relabeled under many brand names including Bower, Vivitar, ProOptic (Adorama house brand), Dot Line, Fotodiox and more.

There are also two grades of the Zeikos... the $75-100 version has metal bayonet mounts, while the sub-$60 set has plastic bayonets. Might be okay for occasional use, but you'll have to judge for yourself if you'll trust your camera and lens to them!

I have only seen photos of the Opteka... they are fairly new and appear okay. Their set includes 12mm, 20mm and 36mm, same as Kenko.

The Zeikos (etc.) set includes 13m, 21mm and 31mm tubes. Kind of odd sizes, but that's unlikely to be a problem. One thing I dislike about the Zeikos is they use a protruding lever to release the lens latching mechanism. To me that seems a little risky... I can imagine accidentally unlatching a lens and dropping it. The Canon and Kenko I use have a somewhat recessed button release, which seems safer to me. (I've had some teleconverters and macro tubes in the past, used with other camera systems, that had a lever release similar to the Zeikos design... I had a couple close calls with them, though no real disasters.)

You'll also find very inexpensive and simple extension tube sets, often for $20 or less. These have no electronic contacts to support auto focus and, on many modern lenses, aperture control. IMO, it's okay to focus macro shots manually, but lack of control over the aperture is a PITA and unacceptable. Might be okay though, if using vintage style lenses with a built-in aperture control ring right on the lens itself.

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Aug 14, 2014 14:37:06   #
jlrivera Loc: Round Lake, Illinois
 
[quote=amfoto1]I use Canon gear instead of Nikon, but have the Kenko tube set to use with it. I also have a few Canon OEM tubes.

The Kenko tubes are top quality, equal to what Canon themselves offer, but cheaper when you buy the set. Canon only sells individual tubes... 12mm for about $85 and 25mm for roughly $140, "street" prices new. The Kenko set includes 12mm, 20mm and 36mm, and currently is available new for $178 in the Canon mount.

There are cheaper. Both Opteka and Zeikos make sets that sell for $100 or less, but are a lot more plasticky than the OEM or Kenko. Note: the Zeikos sell relabeled under many brand names including Bower, Vivitar, ProOptic (Adorama house brand), Dot Line, Fotodiox and more.

There are also two grades of the Zeikos... the $75-100 version has metal bayonet mounts, while the sub-$60 set has plastic bayonets. Might be okay for occasional use, but you'll have to judge for yourself if you'll trust your camera and lens to them!

I have only seen photos of the Opteka... they are fairly new and appear okay. Their set includes 12mm, 20mm and 36mm, same as Kenko.

The Zeikos (etc.) set includes 13m, 21mm and 31mm tubes. Kind of odd sizes, but that's unlikely to be a problem. One thing I dislike about the Zeikos is they use a protruding lever to release the lens latching mechanism. To me that seems a little risky... I can imagine accidentally unlatching a lens and dropping it. The Canon and Kenko I use have a somewhat recessed button release, which seems safer to me. (I've had some teleconverters and macro tubes in the past, used with other camera systems, that had a lever release similar to the Zeikos design... I had a couple close calls with them, though no real disasters.)

You'll also find very inexpensive and simple extension tube sets, often for $20 or less. These have no electronic contacts to support auto focus and, on many modern lenses, aperture control. IMO, it's okay to focus macro shots manually, but lack of control over the aperture is a PITA and unacceptable. Might be okay though, if using vintage style lenses with a built-in aperture control ring right on the lens itself.[/uote]
The Zeikos include: 12mm-20mm and 36mm.

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Aug 14, 2014 14:48:46   #
bearwitme Loc: VA, USA
 
Thanks for info..Will check around...

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Aug 14, 2014 14:49:33   #
bearwitme Loc: VA, USA
 
TREBOR77 wrote:
I have the NIKON ones and they do a really good job....

The cost is not very much for the set.....

also shop used at the big online stores ot at a local camera store.... usually used ones don't have much wear....not used everyday...just my opinion....been shooting 63 yrs

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Thanks for info will check aroud..

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Aug 14, 2014 14:50:37   #
bearwitme Loc: VA, USA
 
jlrivera wrote:
I have the n-af Zeikos digital AF macro extension tubes. They work in auto focus with my Nikon 18-105mm; 55-300mm; 105mm.
http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-CVAFN-Focus-Macro-Extension/dp/B003IVZVDO

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Thanks for the quick response and info...

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Aug 14, 2014 14:51:10   #
bearwitme Loc: VA, USA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I use Canon gear instead of Nikon, but have the Kenko tube set to use with it. I also have a few Canon OEM tubes.

The Kenko tubes are top quality, equal to what Canon themselves offer, but cheaper when you buy the set. Canon only sells individual tubes... 12mm for about $85 and 25mm for roughly $140, "street" prices new. The Kenko set includes 12mm, 20mm and 36mm, and currently is available new for $178 in the Canon mount.

There are cheaper. Both Opteka and Zeikos make sets that sell for $100 or less, but are a lot more plasticky than the OEM or Kenko. Note: the Zeikos sell relabeled under many brand names including Bower, Vivitar, ProOptic (Adorama house brand), Dot Line, Fotodiox and more.

There are also two grades of the Zeikos... the $75-100 version has metal bayonet mounts, while the sub-$60 set has plastic bayonets. Might be okay for occasional use, but you'll have to judge for yourself if you'll trust your camera and lens to them!

I have only seen photos of the Opteka... they are fairly new and appear okay. Their set includes 12mm, 20mm and 36mm, same as Kenko.

The Zeikos (etc.) set includes 13m, 21mm and 31mm tubes. Kind of odd sizes, but that's unlikely to be a problem. One thing I dislike about the Zeikos is they use a protruding lever to release the lens latching mechanism. To me that seems a little risky... I can imagine accidentally unlatching a lens and dropping it. The Canon and Kenko I use have a somewhat recessed button release, which seems safer to me. (I've had some teleconverters and macro tubes in the past, used with other camera systems, that had a lever release similar to the Zeikos design... I had a couple close calls with them, though no real disasters.)

You'll also find very inexpensive and simple extension tube sets, often for $20 or less. These have no electronic contacts to support auto focus and, on many modern lenses, aperture control. IMO, it's okay to focus macro shots manually, but lack of control over the aperture is a PITA and unacceptable. Might be okay though, if using vintage style lenses with a built-in aperture control ring right on the lens itself.
I use Canon gear instead of Nikon, but have the Ke... (show quote)

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Thank You for the information...

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Aug 15, 2014 07:00:05   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Here is a link to extension tubes on Amazon with in a recent study was better then Kenko and under $50 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ALNA09W/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00ALNA09W&linkCode=as2&tag=phbe1bl-20&linkId=YW3ZZOTM5YBNCMEO Xit XTETC Auto Focus Macro Extension Tube Set

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Aug 15, 2014 10:57:58   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
bearwitme wrote:
Hi Everyone..

I am interested in the Kenko Extension Tubes for Nikon, but think the the $200.00 price is a little steep. Has anyone tried another brand that is not as costly that works as well. I see DG and Non DG.. What is the difference..I can't seem to find anything on it..Thanks in advance...


I see these high prices and wonder why for something that does not even have any glass in it. I bought a new set of three through ebay for around thirty bucks. They have the metal bracket, not just plastic, and are fully automatic. Yes, they were made and shipped direct from China, which only took about a week. I've been using them for a couple of years now with no trouble what so ever.

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Aug 15, 2014 12:14:32   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
mborn wrote:
Here is a link to extension tubes on Amazon with in a recent study was better then Kenko and under $50 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ALNA09W/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00ALNA09W&linkCode=as2&tag=phbe1bl-20&linkId=YW3ZZOTM5YBNCMEO Xit XTETC Auto Focus Macro Extension Tube Set


Those are just the Zeikos relabeled under yet another brand name. Plastic barrels (Kenko are metal)... What's shown at the link are the metal bayonet... the more expensive version of the Zeikos tubes. Price seems quite good... more like that of the plastic bayonet mount version.

I wouldn't rate them "better" than the Kenko... But I suppose it depends upon your usage. These are probably fine for someone wanting to use them very occasionally and not using them with particularly heavy lenses or cameras. The cheaper version with plastic bayonets, I'd probably only use with very lightweight lenses.

For heavier gear, long-term use and durability, I'd want the Kenko (or in your case, the Nikon tubes... in my case the Canon). After all, the metal ones should last pretty much forever... There are no optics and few moving parts to wear out. More expensive up front, sure... But I've been using the same tubes (3 Canon and the Kenko set) for at least ten years.

Not sure if the plastic ones would hold up as well. But they may be just fine for many folks.

Another possibility is a variable macro extension tube, which is called a macro "helicoid". There's one being made now in Canon and Nikon mount. Not sure the quality of it, seems like a lot of plastic (http://www.amazon.com/ProOPTIC-Helicoid-Macro-Zoomer-Nikon/dp/B00888FXOO/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1408118203&sr=1-6).

The problem with a macro helicoid like this is that it only offers long to very long extension... 46mm minimum and adjustable for up to 68mm. Wouldn't be very useful with shorter focal length lenses. I've never used the somewhat plasticky helicoid shown above... I've used helicoids from different manufacturers in other systems.

There are also macro bellows, which also are essentially variable length extension tubes. (http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-Focusing-Slider-Bellows-Cameras/dp/B006B7R4LY/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1408118526&sr=1-2) These give long to very, very long extension, potentially giving ultra high levels of magnification (5:1 or 5X lifesize is possible with some lenses on bellows). Most bellows do not support auto focus or electronic aperture control... at least the reasonably affordable ones don't. Novoflex is one manufacturer that makes bellows in versions that support AF and electronic aperture control, but they are very expensive comparatively.

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Aug 15, 2014 12:38:01   #
bearwitme Loc: VA, USA
 
mborn wrote:
Here is a link to extension tubes on Amazon with in a recent study was better then Kenko and under $50 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ALNA09W/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00ALNA09W&linkCode=as2&tag=phbe1bl-20&linkId=YW3ZZOTM5YBNCMEO Xit XTETC Auto Focus Macro Extension Tube Set

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Thank You

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Aug 15, 2014 12:38:45   #
bearwitme Loc: VA, USA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Those are just the Zeikos relabeled under yet another brand name. Plastic barrels (Kenko are metal)... What's shown at the link are the metal bayonet... the more expensive version of the Zeikos tubes. Price seems quite good... more like that of the plastic bayonet mount version.

I wouldn't rate them "better" than the Kenko... But I suppose it depends upon your usage. These are probably fine for someone wanting to use them very occasionally and not using them with particularly heavy lenses or cameras. The cheaper version with plastic bayonets, I'd probably only use with very lightweight lenses.

For heavier gear, long-term use and durability, I'd want the Kenko (or in your case, the Nikon tubes... in my case the Canon). After all, the metal ones should last pretty much forever... There are no optics and few moving parts to wear out. More expensive up front, sure... But I've been using the same tubes (3 Canon and the Kenko set) for at least ten years.

Not sure if the plastic ones would hold up as well. But they may be just fine for many folks.

Another possibility is a variable macro extension tube, which is called a macro "helicoid". There's one being made now in Canon and Nikon mount. Not sure the quality of it, seems like a lot of plastic (http://www.amazon.com/ProOPTIC-Helicoid-Macro-Zoomer-Nikon/dp/B00888FXOO/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1408118203&sr=1-6).

The problem with a macro helicoid like this is that it only offers long to very long extension... 46mm minimum and adjustable for up to 68mm. Wouldn't be very useful with shorter focal length lenses. I've never used the somewhat plasticky helicoid shown above... I've used helicoids from different manufacturers in other systems.

There are also macro bellows, which also are essentially variable length extension tubes. (http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-Focusing-Slider-Bellows-Cameras/dp/B006B7R4LY/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1408118526&sr=1-2) These give long to very, very long extension, potentially giving ultra high levels of magnification (5:1 or 5X lifesize is possible with some lenses on bellows). Most bellows do not support auto focus or electronic aperture control... at least the reasonably affordable ones don't. Novoflex is one manufacturer that makes bellows in versions that support AF and electronic aperture control, but they are very expensive comparatively.
Those are just the Zeikos relabeled under yet anot... (show quote)

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Thanks for the information and links..Will take a look.

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