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Aug 9, 2014 20:56:41   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Polls indicate that most conservatives still believe there were WMDs in Iraq.

A lot of this belief was based on Donald Rumsfeld's claim that no inspection was completed. Fact Check.org gave this statement 4 Pinochios
The UN completed the inspection but left in a rush not because they were kicked out but because war was imminent and ground troops from US were arriving.

The report was filed and no WMDs were found.

The Univ. of Maryland did an investigation into why this claim is still believed when even Bush's own appointed inspector called the WMD claims "Mostly Wrong." The study found that most believers of the myth were FOX watchers. FOX kept promoting the myth and showing old videos of when Saddam Hussien was using chemical weapons on the Kurds.

Couple this with the finding by PunditFact, (a division of Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact) found FOX with a whopping 60% fact checks were "mostly wrong." FOX also had the biggest number of "Pants on Fire" ratings.

With solid evidence that FOX was spawned by staffers of Nixon Administration along with paid consultant Roger Ailes who became founding president of FOX, do you really think its fair and balanced?

Everything in this post is verifiable.

Should you make decisions based on very obvious slanted misinformation?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Survey_Group

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Aug 9, 2014 21:24:51   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
At this point and time what does it matter... ISIS will have their own WMD's after they over Iraq and the rest of the region. Don't worry about what Bush had done but worry more about what ISIS is doing and what Obama is not doing.

Out of all the News Outlets, I would rather watch Fox then any of the others. What, you think CNN doesn't lie or that they won't cover up for Obama? MSNBC - never mind about them.

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Aug 9, 2014 21:27:03   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Bangee5 wrote:
At this point and time what does it matter... ISIS will have their own WMD's after they over Iraq and the rest of the region. Don't worry about what Bush had done but worry more about what ISIS is doing and what Obama is not doing.

Out of all the News Outlets, I would rather watch Fox then any of the others. What, you think CNN doesn't lie or that they won't cover up for Obama? MSNBC - never mind about them.


CNN was found in the same investigation to have 18% "Mostly False " ratings. MSNBC had 46% "Mostly False" and less than half of FOX's "Pants on Fires" Yet on no show does MSNBC claim to be "News" on every show FOX emblazones "News" on the screen. MSNBC is not news and makes no claim to be. FOX is demonstrably not news but wants you to think they are the be all and end all of news.

Couple this with the finding by PunditFact, (a division of Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact) found FOX with a whopping 60% fact checks were "mostly wrong." FOX also had the biggest number of "Pants on Fire" ratings.


With solid evidence that FOX was spawned by staffers of Nixon Administration along with paid consultant Roger Ailes who became founding president of FOX, do you really think its fair and balanced?

I have asked several times on Chit-Chat and nobody has dared to answer:

"If a disgraced Democratic administration had spawned a broadcast network to tell one side of a story would you call it Fair & Balanced?"

Would you recommend others base decisions on it?

OK, if misinformation is your thing!

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Aug 9, 2014 21:28:01   #
reindeer Loc: London U.K.
 
This concoction (WMD,s) was done by that idiotic/criminal liar channel,Foxnews, to prepare Public opinion for a US attack on Iraq, instigated and planned by Israel because it wanted to remove Saddam. So Cheney,s buddy became an overnight Gillian. The fact is that Saddam was always a Gillian but the accusation of WMD,s was motivated The British Arms inspector Dr. David Kelly was silenced by the intelligence services because he was about to spill the beans. Be liar and Bush were conspirators to promote this lie. The greatest atrocities of the 21st century were committed on the Iraqi civilians (Abu Ghairab , use of radioactive artillery shells in Falluja etc And now Bush and Blair., as much criminals as Hitler, are Church leaders. Can you imagine?

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Aug 9, 2014 21:51:39   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
wlgoode wrote:
CNN was found in the same investigation to have 18% "Mostly False " ratings. MSNBC had 46% "Mostly False" and less than half of FOX's "Pants on Fires" Yet on no show does MSNBC claim to be "News" on every show FOX emblazones "News" on the screen. MSNBC is not news and makes no claim to be. FOX is demonstrably not news but wants you to think they are the be all and end all of news.

Couple this with the finding by PunditFact, (a division of Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact) found FOX with a whopping 60% fact checks were "mostly wrong." FOX also had the biggest number of "Pants on Fire" ratings.


With solid evidence that FOX was spawned by staffers of Nixon Administration along with paid consultant Roger Ailes who became founding president of FOX, do you really think its fair and balanced?

I have asked several times on Chit-Chat and nobody has dared to answer:

"If a disgraced Democratic administration had spawned a broadcast network to tell one side of a story would you call it Fair & Balanced?"

Would you recommend others base decisions on it?

OK, if misinformation is your thing!
CNN was found in the same investigation to have 18... (show quote)


Fox has the most viewers. That should tell you something. As to your question.

"If a disgraced Democratic administration had spawned a broadcast network to tell one side of a story would you call it Fair & Balanced?"

Do you call CNN Fair and Balanced? MSNBC ? ABC? CBS? They all lean left yet one News Outlet, Fox News who leans right and you pose a question such as this? It was not the republican party that spawn Fox but the owner is republican, I am sure. So there, consider your question answered, maybe not to your satisfaction but answered none the less.

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Aug 9, 2014 21:54:04   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
reindeer wrote:
This concoction (WMD,s) was done by that idiotic/criminal liar channel,Foxnews, to prepare Public opinion for a US attack on Iraq, instigated and planned by Israel because it wanted to remove Saddam. So Cheney,s buddy became an overnight Gillian. The fact is that Saddam was always a Gillian but the accusation of WMD,s was motivated The British Arms inspector Dr. David Kelly was silenced by the intelligence services because he was about to spill the beans. Be liar and Bush were conspirators to promote this lie. The greatest atrocities of the 21st century were committed on the Iraqi civilians (Abu Ghairab , use of radioactive artillery shells in Falluja etc And now Bush and Blair., as much criminals as Hitler, are Church leaders. Can you imagine?
This concoction (WMD,s) was done by that idiotic/c... (show quote)


This sounds like something right out of the mouth of Larry Payne. Are you sure that those nasty Zionist weren't in on it as well?

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Aug 9, 2014 22:29:27   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Bangee5 wrote:
Fox has the most viewers. That should tell you something. As to your question.

"If a disgraced Democratic administration had spawned a broadcast network to tell one side of a story would you call it Fair & Balanced?"

Do you call CNN Fair and Balanced? MSNBC ? ABC? CBS? They all lean left yet one News Outlet, Fox News who leans right and you pose a question such as this? It was not the republican party that spawn Fox but the owner is republican, I am sure. So there, consider your question answered, maybe not to your satisfaction but answered none the less.
Fox has the most viewers. That should tell you som... (show quote)


Gawker (a web based news blog) used the "Freedom of Information Act" to dig out info from the Nixon Presidential Library. In that discovery was lots of information about establishing a Republican voice on broadcast news. This information was between Nixon staffers with paid consultant Roger Ailes' copious handwritten notes in the margins. He offered his services in getting it going. Roger Ailes became the founding President of FOX. What's the matter? Didn't your Fair and Balanced News network tell you this story?

Not surprising that for years they used an admitted schizophrenic as their poster boy.

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Aug 9, 2014 22:38:08   #
warwoman Loc: NE Georgia Mtns.
 
reindeer wrote:
This concoction (WMD,s) was done by that idiotic/criminal liar channel,Foxnews, to prepare Public opinion for a US attack on Iraq, instigated and planned by Israel because it wanted to remove Saddam. So Cheney,s buddy became an overnight Gillian. The fact is that Saddam was always a Gillian but the accusation of WMD,s was motivated The British Arms inspector Dr. David Kelly was silenced by the intelligence services because he was about to spill the beans. Be liar and Bush were conspirators to promote this lie. The greatest atrocities of the 21st century were committed on the Iraqi civilians (Abu Ghairab , use of radioactive artillery shells in Falluja etc And now Bush and Blair., as much criminals as Hitler, are Church leaders. Can you imagine?
This concoction (WMD,s) was done by that idiotic/c... (show quote)

Radioactive artillery shells?? Now that's a new one. Care to elaborate? You're not confusing the GAU-8 Avenger 30mm "gatling gun" found on A-10 Warthogs that uses a depleted uranium shell for armor piercing rounds, are you? If you are, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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Aug 9, 2014 22:49:29   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
warwoman wrote:
Radioactive artillery shells?? Now that's a new one. Care to elaborate? You're not confusing the GAU-8 Avenger 30mm "gatling gun" found on A-10 Warthogs that uses a depleted uranium shell for armor piercing rounds, are you? If you are, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.


The point is WMDs have been debunked, debunked, debunked. But FOX Noise wants you to believe they were found.

If you want to be misinformed, you chose the right channel.

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Aug 9, 2014 22:55:37   #
warwoman Loc: NE Georgia Mtns.
 
wlgoode wrote:
The point is WMDs have been debunked, debunked, debunked. But FOX Noise wants you to believe they were found.

If you want to be misinformed, you chose the right channel.


Still waiting to hear about the "radioactive" artillery shells we supposedly used. Were they 105mm? 155mm/ 8"? Towed? SP?
Just throwing crap like this out there shows you're ignorance. You probably also believe that there's such a thing as an "assault" rifle! Don't those neat military sounding words just roll off your tongue!!

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Aug 9, 2014 23:03:33   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
wlgoode wrote:
Gawker (a web based news blog) used the "Freedom of Information Act" to dig out info from the Nixon Presidential Library. In that discovery was lots of information about establishing a Republican voice on broadcast news. This information was between Nixon staffers with paid consultant Roger Ailes' copious handwritten notes in the margins. He offered his services in getting it going. Roger Ailes became the founding President of FOX. What's the matter? Didn't your Fair and Balanced News network tell you this story?

Not surprising that for years they used an admitted schizophrenic as their poster boy.
Gawker (a web based news blog) used the "Fre... (show quote)


If so what does it matter... at least 5 to 1... what's Fair and Balance about that? Fox is doing something right to beat out the other networks in ratings. Is that what you are really complaining about? What is the big deal about Fox with you left-wing Liberals. Is the fact that I watch Fox anyone's concern?

A new chapter has began with Iraq. Turn the page and don't worry about what has happen... watch what is about to come. The Middle East is about to explode and the liberals are still harping about Bush. Best be asking what is Obama going to do - hand Israel over to her enemies and become the enemy ourselves?

Watch CNN if that is your choice. As yet, this is still a free country.

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Aug 10, 2014 01:11:37   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Bangee5 wrote:
If so what does it matter... at least 5 to 1... what's Fair and Balance about that? Fox is doing something right to beat out the other networks in ratings. Is that what you are really complaining about? What is the big deal about Fox with you left-wing Liberals. Is the fact that I watch Fox anyone's concern?

A new chapter has began with Iraq. Turn the page and don't worry about what has happen... watch what is about to come. The Middle East is about to explode and the liberals are still harping about Bush. Best be asking what is Obama going to do - hand Israel over to her enemies and become the enemy ourselves?

Watch CNN if that is your choice. As yet, this is still a free country.
If so what does it matter... at least 5 to 1... wh... (show quote)


Sounds like you think its good if many people are misinformed. Also sounds like you are choosing to be misinformed.

People are harping about Bush? Why are people still misinformed about Bush? FOX!!! Misinformation with FOX is as current as today!

Conservatives either defend Bush or don't want to bring him up because its a GOP embarrassment.

Example: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Yes its a tragedy! How about the 20 diplomatic bombings and 72 dead under Bush, did FOX tell you about that? I guess its not important to FOX viewers.

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Aug 10, 2014 01:18:40   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
wlgoode wrote:
Sounds like you think its good if many people are misinformed. Also sounds like you are choosing to be misinformed.

People are harping about Bush? Why are people still misinformed about Bush? FOX!!! Misinformation with FOX is as current as today!


So you have a problem with Fox. It is you then with the problem. Better that I be misinformed with Fox then by the other Networks. My choice, your problem.

Watch the news of your choice. If CNN has what you want to hear and see, then watch CNN. Before Fox came along I too watched CNN. But now, I watch Fox. And I will continue to watch Fox.

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Aug 10, 2014 01:23:16   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Bangee5 wrote:
So you have a problem with Fox. It is you then with the problem. Better that I be misinformed with Fox then by the other Networks. My choice, your problem.

Watch the news of your choice. If CNN has what you want to hear and see, then watch CNN. Before Fox came along I too watched CNN. But now, I watch Fox. And I will continue to watch Fox.


And continue to choose to be misinformed. Great choice. Want to rethink it?

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Aug 10, 2014 07:05:09   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
It is radioactive: about 60% of the amount of naturally-occurring uranium. The bigger problem is that uranium is toxic.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

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