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Jan 30, 2012 12:15:01   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Steve,

I'm quite happy with my D700, it does everything I want in a camera. Noise is not a problem etc.

As we both know, there has been a flury of messages and rumors about a D700 replacement. So I thought, if I had my wish I would want the replacement to have a little higher low noise ISO and just a few more megapixels. From reading the rumors, that is not the case, and I guess we will know more next month. If the rumors are correct I will not be buying the D800 because in the area of my wish list there will be no improvement.

The D700 is a great camera and just like you, I'm happy with it.

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Jan 30, 2012 14:23:52   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
MT Shooter wrote:
rayford2 wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
travelwp wrote:
True, but the rumors from many sources indicate that the D800 will be a multi-media box with no advancement in low noise higher ISO. By next month we should know the real story.


I guess by "multi media" you are referring to video capability. Its probably going tp get harder to buy a "stills only" body in the future as its basically only a software upgrade to get video from any camera sensor these days, and the video is in demand due to the simple changeover from still to video in camera, as well as the ability to take stills at the same time as taking video without video interruption. The is no need to actually USE the video feature if you don't want it. Personally I like the HD video feature of my D7000, never figured into my purchase, but its amazing in what it is capable of. My Canon ES65 hasn't left the house since I bought the D7000, and likely never will unless my daughter wants to play with it sometime.

Funny, I remember when photographers used to say "Digital? What a bunch of crap that is!"
Life marches on whether we get on the wagon or not.
quote=travelwp True, but the rumors from many sou... (show quote)


If it's only basically a software issue that permits videography from a still camera, that must be quite an upgrade. Look at the price difference between the Nikon D3 (still only) and the D3s (video + still) bodies.
quote=MT Shooter quote=travelwp True, but the ru... (show quote)


You think there was a huge price increase? Lets look at what else you bought on that D3S besides the addition of video.

ISO boost from 25,600 to 102,400
Added the ability to record in camera TIFF images
Added facial recognition to AF
Increased AF to 51 focal points
Added a STEREO microphone
All this and Nikon still managed to shave 80 grams (6%) from the weight of the body.

Sounds like some pretty major improvements to me. And the D3 sold for $7999.99 at introduction, but it was discounted just prior to the D3S release 2 years later. The selling price for the D3S at release? Oh, that was $6749.99, currently $5999.99 at NikonUSA. So just how much did that video software cost do you think????
quote=rayford2 quote=MT Shooter quote=travelwp ... (show quote)


Sorry MT, I compared prices from dhp review only, when I clicked on those specific cameras. Should have done a little more research before typing my big yap.
...may the force be with you.

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Jan 30, 2012 14:30:09   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
rayford2 wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
rayford2 wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
travelwp wrote:
True, but the rumors from many sources indicate that the D800 will be a multi-media box with no advancement in low noise higher ISO. By next month we should know the real story.


I guess by "multi media" you are referring to video capability. Its probably going tp get harder to buy a "stills only" body in the future as its basically only a software upgrade to get video from any camera sensor these days, and the video is in demand due to the simple changeover from still to video in camera, as well as the ability to take stills at the same time as taking video without video interruption. The is no need to actually USE the video feature if you don't want it. Personally I like the HD video feature of my D7000, never figured into my purchase, but its amazing in what it is capable of. My Canon ES65 hasn't left the house since I bought the D7000, and likely never will unless my daughter wants to play with it sometime.

Funny, I remember when photographers used to say "Digital? What a bunch of crap that is!"
Life marches on whether we get on the wagon or not.
quote=travelwp True, but the rumors from many sou... (show quote)


If it's only basically a software issue that permits videography from a still camera, that must be quite an upgrade. Look at the price difference between the Nikon D3 (still only) and the D3s (video + still) bodies.
quote=MT Shooter quote=travelwp True, but the ru... (show quote)


You think there was a huge price increase? Lets look at what else you bought on that D3S besides the addition of video.

ISO boost from 25,600 to 102,400
Added the ability to record in camera TIFF images
Added facial recognition to AF
Increased AF to 51 focal points
Added a STEREO microphone
All this and Nikon still managed to shave 80 grams (6%) from the weight of the body.

Sounds like some pretty major improvements to me. And the D3 sold for $7999.99 at introduction, but it was discounted just prior to the D3S release 2 years later. The selling price for the D3S at release? Oh, that was $6749.99, currently $5999.99 at NikonUSA. So just how much did that video software cost do you think????
quote=rayford2 quote=MT Shooter quote=travelwp ... (show quote)


Sorry MT, I compared prices from dhp review only, when I clicked on those specific cameras. Should have done a little more research before typing my big yap.
...may the force be with you.
quote=MT Shooter quote=rayford2 quote=MT Shoote... (show quote)


Not a problem. I kind of thought you might have been thinking of the D3X which had a very large price increase over either the D3 or the D3S. Battle on Skywalker!

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Jan 30, 2012 18:25:36   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
travelwp wrote:
Steve,

I'm quite happy with my D700, it does everything I want in a camera. Noise is not a problem etc.

As we both know, there has been a flury of messages and rumors about a D700 replacement. So I thought, if I had my wish I would want the replacement to have a little higher low noise ISO and just a few more megapixels. From reading the rumors, that is not the case, and I guess we will know more next month. If the rumors are correct I will not be buying the D800 because in the area of my wish list there will be no improvement.

The D700 is a great camera and just like you, I'm happy with it.
Steve, br br I'm quite happy with my D700, it doe... (show quote)


Whew! Thought I was going to be adding something new to my wish list.

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Jan 31, 2012 20:35:43   #
PJT Loc: Sarasota,Florida
 
travelwp wrote:
I was hoping the D700 upgrade would be just a little better in low noise ISO and just a little higher in megapixels. Instead we get a multi-media box.

I'm going to start looking at medium format Cameras and perhaps make a purchase when the price gets a little lower.

Thanks for the information on medium format.

travelup:

Unless you are considering medium format and digital back technology the price for medium format film cameras are at an all time low. In addition to owning a Pentax 645, I own a Rollie,Fugi 645 wide,and 3 hasselblads.
Any one set up can be picked up used at a reasonable price. Remember I am talking medium format film of the 120 and 220 variety. Now that Kodak may give up the ghost entirely Fugi is the only game in town. I for one prefered the old Kodak VPH 400 it is a very versitle film. Rated at 320 ISO it will handle anything from a darkend church to a couple on the beach.
Just my thoughts! 8-) I think that you are talking about digital medium format as thats what it seems all the posts are covering.

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