What film for a ziess?
Jul 31, 2014 08:57:58 #
Hey guys I recently bought a ziess ikon ikonta medium format slr.its a 2x 36 mm. IV downloaded the manual of Google but it doesn't tell you what size film is required.
Just wondering the obvious what film size and where to purchase it?
Sorry it maybe a easy answer to some but this is a 1929 build camera n iv never used a slr before only dslr. I am going to enjoy the challenge :)
Just wondering the obvious what film size and where to purchase it?
Sorry it maybe a easy answer to some but this is a 1929 build camera n iv never used a slr before only dslr. I am going to enjoy the challenge :)
Jul 31, 2014 09:03:36 #
B & H in New York have all kinds of film. They are online. I still buy 120 and 220 roll film sometimes for my Dads' twin lens. Have fun with your new "toy"! Also Roberts Camera in Indianapolis, Indiana has it.
Jul 31, 2014 09:25:34 #
Awesome thank you for that I'll look into it.i looked at the Kodak site but no help there :)
roxiemarty wrote:
B & H in New York have all kinds of film. They are online. I still buy 120 and 220 roll film sometimes for my Dads' twin lens. Have fun with your new "toy"! Also Roberts Camera in Indianapolis, Indiana has it.
Jul 31, 2014 09:59:34 #
JP/Avery wrote:
... Just wondering the obvious what film size and where to purchase it? ...
Models A, B and C all use 120 film which is available from B&H.
Aug 1, 2014 06:55:47 #
JP/Avery wrote:
Hey guys I recently bought a ziess ikon ikonta medium format slr.its a 2x 36 mm. IV downloaded the manual of Google but it doesn't tell you what size film is required.
Just wondering the obvious what film size and where to purchase it?
Sorry it maybe a easy answer to some but this is a 1929 build camera n iv never used a slr before only dslr. I am going to enjoy the challenge :)
Just wondering the obvious what film size and where to purchase it?
Sorry it maybe a easy answer to some but this is a 1929 build camera n iv never used a slr before only dslr. I am going to enjoy the challenge :)
Let's hope it is a Model A-C and not a D. 120 / 220 Format film is still easy to come by today, like 135 (35mm), and sheet films (4x5", 8x10", etc.) it is used in cameras still manufactured. But 616, 620, 127, etc. is only possibly available from a few specialty retailers. Kodak for one discontinued manufacturing "strange" or "obsolete" formats in 1984. I would assume today the situation is the same for Ilford, Agfa, and Fuji. There seem to be a few small mostly Eastern European companies still making some "odd" film formats. I hear someone bought the rights to make some Polaroid films again. Check with Free Style. You might even call them as they may know of others selling what you need (if other than 135, 120, 220, and sheet films).
Even though it also used a "strange" former film I sold an antique camera on ebay for a friend and it got grabbed up quickly.
But I take it you plan to shoot with it. Pray it is 120.
By-the-way, I did not really understand what "medium format slr. its a 2x 36 mm" meant. 1929 SLR, no way; Mirrors and Penta Prisms came much later. And did you mean negative size 36mmx72mm? 120 films shoot 4.5mmx6mm, 6mmx6mm, 6mmx7mm, 6mmx9mm, etc. 135 (35mm) is 24mmx36mm, cine/movie film "35mm" about 24mmx18mm.
Aug 1, 2014 07:46:50 #
Great answer,lamiaceae.
Except 120 format sizes should be in centimeters...ie: 6x4.5 cm, 6x6 cm etc.
Except 120 format sizes should be in centimeters...ie: 6x4.5 cm, 6x6 cm etc.
Aug 1, 2014 07:56:01 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Great answer,lamiaceae.
Except 120 format sizes should be in centimeters...ie: 6x4.5 cm, 6x6 cm etc.
Except 120 format sizes should be in centimeters...ie: 6x4.5 cm, 6x6 cm etc.
You're correct. That is what I meant. cm. Got lenses on my mind too much. LOL
Aug 1, 2014 08:03:01 #
JP/Avery wrote:
Hey guys I recently bought a ziess ikon ikonta medium format slr.its a 2x 36 mm. IV downloaded the manual of Google but it doesn't tell you what size film is required.
Just wondering the obvious what film size and where to purchase it?
Sorry it maybe a easy answer to some but this is a 1929 build camera n iv never used a slr before only dslr. I am going to enjoy the challenge :)
Just wondering the obvious what film size and where to purchase it?
Sorry it maybe a easy answer to some but this is a 1929 build camera n iv never used a slr before only dslr. I am going to enjoy the challenge :)
Revised answer. I knew something looked wrong when I was typing. Sorry.
Let's hope it is a Model A-C and not a D. 120 / 220 Format film is still easy to come by today, like 135 (35mm), and sheet films (4x5", 8x10", etc.) it is used in cameras still manufactured. But 616, 620, 127, etc. is only possibly available from a few specialty retailers. Kodak for one discontinued manufacturing "strange" or "obsolete" formats in 1984. I would assume today the situation is the same for Ilford, Agfa, and Fuji. There seem to be a few small mostly Eastern European companies still making some "odd" film formats. I hear someone bought the rights to make some Polaroid films again. Check with Free Style. You might even call them as they may know of others selling what you need (if other than 135, 120, 220, and sheet films).
Even though it also used a "strange" former film I sold an antique camera on ebay for a friend and it got grabbed up quickly.
But I take it you plan to shoot with it. Pray it is 120.
By-the-way, I did not really understand what "medium format slr. its a 2x 36 mm" meant. 1929 SLR, no way; Mirrors and Penta Prisms came much later. And did you mean negative or image size 36mmx72mm? 120 films shoot 4.5cmx6cm, 6cmx6cm, 6cmx7cm, 6cmx9cm, etc. 135 (35mm wide) is image size 24mmx36mm, cine/movie film "35mm" about 24mmx18mm.
Embarrassed that I typed mm for cm originally. :-(
Aug 1, 2014 08:10:19 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Great answer,lamiaceae.
Except 120 format sizes should be in centimeters...ie: 6x4.5 cm, 6x6 cm etc.
Except 120 format sizes should be in centimeters...ie: 6x4.5 cm, 6x6 cm etc.
They are also commonly expressed in inches as 2 1/4x2 1/4, 2 1/4x2 3/4, etc. What they all have in common is the 6 cm or 2 1/4 inch as one of the dimensions.
But even these dimensions are a little off. The actual image size across the width of the film is closer to 54 mm or 2 1/8 inch.
Aug 1, 2014 09:17:27 #
selmslie wrote:
They are also commonly expressed in inches as 2 1/4x2 1/4, 2 1/4x2 3/4, etc. What they all have in common is the 6 cm or 2 1/4 inch as one of the dimensions.
But even these dimensions are a little off. The actual image size across the width of the film is closer to 54 mm or 2 1/8 inch.
But even these dimensions are a little off. The actual image size across the width of the film is closer to 54 mm or 2 1/8 inch.
Yes, that I well know. But it looks awkward in on a page without the size reduction you get for fractions on a word processor page. Also some people don't read decimal numbers well like 2.25 for 2 1/4. And I believe you are also right about the numbers we "talk" about only being close and not exact. As I remember I used to have a Pentax 6x7 camera and the negative image area was not exactly 6x7cm or 60x70mm, it was something closer to 56x66mm or 5.6x6.6cm. And yet not the same width as a Rollie 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 either. ;)
Aug 1, 2014 09:36:08 #
selmslie wrote:
They are also commonly expressed in inches as 2 1/4x2 1/4, 2 1/4x2 3/4, etc. What they all have in common is the 6 cm or 2 1/4 inch as one of the dimensions.
But even these dimensions are a little off. The actual image size across the width of the film is closer to 54 mm or 2 1/8 inch.
But even these dimensions are a little off. The actual image size across the width of the film is closer to 54 mm or 2 1/8 inch.
Yes, you're right there.
A few millimeters difference when shooting medium format isn't as big a deal as when shooting what used to be called miniature format of 35mm (or smaller).
It takes more syllables to say "two and a quarter by two and three quarters" vs "six by seven".
Another advantage of the metric system.
Aug 1, 2014 10:12:16 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Yes, you're right there.
A few millimeters difference when shooting medium format isn't as big a deal as when shooting what used to be called miniature format of 35mm (or smaller).
It takes more syllables to say "two and a quarter by two and three quarters" vs "six by seven".
Another advantage of the metric system.
A few millimeters difference when shooting medium format isn't as big a deal as when shooting what used to be called miniature format of 35mm (or smaller).
It takes more syllables to say "two and a quarter by two and three quarters" vs "six by seven".
Another advantage of the metric system.
Yup. :-)
Aug 1, 2014 11:24:45 #
lamiaceae wrote:
1929 SLR, no way; Mirrors and Penta Prisms came much later.
Mike, your note has overlooked the American contribution to photography, the Graflex. This single-lens reflex camera was ubiquitous among press photographers even before the First World War, when it was made by the Folmer & Schwing Division of Kodak. It had a focalplane shutter and mirror, interchangeable lenses, and a very high viewing hood. It used sheet film and plates, ranging from 3-1/4in. x 4-1/4in to 5in x 7in. The first medium-format SLR I recall seeing was the Exacta from East Germany (35mm and medium format) around 1954 or so.
Aug 1, 2014 11:36:14 #
Could you post a photo of the camera, JP?
Might help us stop guessing about the film size.
I love old cameras.
Might help us stop guessing about the film size.
I love old cameras.
Aug 1, 2014 13:54:08 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Could you post a photo of the camera, JP?
Might help us stop guessing about the film size.
I love old cameras.
Might help us stop guessing about the film size.
I love old cameras.
Yes, that is a good idea. And is there a plate with a name and model number. Post that too.
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