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Jul 19, 2014 09:38:12   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
larrypayne wrote:
Maybe this will help get this thread back on topic:

"Ukrainian military could be responsible for the crash

While western media and politicians have unilaterally blamed Russia for the disaster, they have failed to mention the other side of the story that suggests that the Ukrainian military may have been responsible.

The Russian Defense Ministry has said that when a Malaysian Airlines plane was apparently shot down over Ukraine, a Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missile battery was operational in the region. The ministry said that the battery was deployed at a site from which it could have fired a missile at the airliner. The Defense Ministry also added that the Ukrainian military has several batteries of Buk surface-to-air missile systems with at least 27 launchers, capable of bringing down high-flying jets, in the Donetsk region where the Malaysian passenger plane crashed. Furthermore, hours after the crash of the Boeing 777 was reported, Kiev published what it called intercepted communications between militia officers and their Russian handler to apparently discuss the take-down of a civilian aircraft by the militia. However, as was noted in this video, the alleged intercepted conversation was created before the plane crashed, suggesting that not only is the conversation fake, but whoever created it was aware about the impending disaster.

Ultimately, right now it is very difficult to confirm who was responsible for the crash, but it is imperative to know that there is some evidence that the Ukrainian military may have been involved, thus nullifying the unjustified claims that Russia is definitely to blame."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-plane-crash-lies-and-sinister-political-agenda-by-the-west/5391913
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The muslim is back from killing infidels. Time to unwatch.

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Jul 19, 2014 09:38:40   #
James Shaw
 
CatMarley wrote:
In my case It is irrelevant. I'm entitled to study military history and draw what conclusions I want to from that study. I am not assuming any position of authority or command of our military. It seems to me, however, somewhat inappropriate to hand over the reins of supreme command to a person with absolutely NO military experience, but that's what we do in this country. Bush at least had some experience.

During the actual fight we need, and we use, the experienced combat generals, but outside of it all we need a commander with an outside overall view of our country and our world and the American people. Otherwise, the generals would run the country. Truman pulled in MacArthur, for example.

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Jul 19, 2014 09:41:45   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
bodacious wrote:
Sarcasm is never wasted is it.


It is on liberals because they actually think like that. To them it is reality not humor!

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Jul 19, 2014 09:45:32   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
This could have some connection to the latest false flag event:
"On March 26, 2014, investigative journalist Chris Bollyn broke what has probably been the most important story to date on the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 (MH370). With the befuddled and clueless mainstream media (MSM) parroting what the government was telling them and some theorizing anything from black holes to alien abduction, Bollyn reported that there was a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 identical to MH370 which had been stored in a hangar in Tel Aviv since November 2013. For those knowledgeable of Israel’s long history of false flag attacks, the implications of such a long shot “coincidence” were alarming and frightening." http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/26/mh370-evidence-of-false-flag/

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Jul 19, 2014 09:47:31   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
James Shaw wrote:
During the actual fight we need, and we use, the experienced combat generals, but outside of it all we need a commander with an outside overall view of our country and our world and the American people. Otherwise, the generals would run the country. Truman pulled in MacArthur, for example.


Unfortunately our current commander has a very misguided view of all three.

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Jul 19, 2014 09:53:25   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
larrypayne wrote:
This could have some connection to the latest false flag event:
"On March 26, 2014, investigative journalist Chris Bollyn broke what has probably been the most important story to date on the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 (MH370). With the befuddled and clueless mainstream media (MSM) parroting what the government was telling them and some theorizing anything from black holes to alien abduction, Bollyn reported that there was a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 identical to MH370 which had been stored in a hangar in Tel Aviv since November 2013. For those knowledgeable of Israel’s long history of false flag attacks, the implications of such a long shot “coincidence” were alarming and frightening." http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/26/mh370-evidence-of-false-flag/
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We were starting to worry about you!

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Jul 19, 2014 09:54:47   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
dljen wrote:
You said the words, I didn't. It isn't against the law, I just see you for what you are now.


Quit trying to hijack the thread, stay on topic and quit doubling down!

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Jul 19, 2014 09:58:54   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
CatMarley wrote:
In my case It is irrelevant. I'm entitled to study military history and draw what conclusions I want to from that study. I am not assuming any position of authority or command of our military. It seems to me, however, somewhat inappropriate to hand over the reins of supreme command to a person with absolutely NO military experience, but that's what we do in this country. Bush at least had some experience.

The POS Obama could at least learn how to salute so he could fake his respect for the military a little better on the photo-ops!

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Jul 19, 2014 10:00:40   #
James Shaw
 
James Shaw wrote:
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During the actual fight we need, and we use, the experienced combat generals, but outside of it all we need a commander with an outside overall view of our country and our world and the American people. Otherwise, the generals would run the country. Truman pulled in MacArthur, for example.

usnpilot wrote:
Unfortunately our current commander has a very misguided view of all three.

Well, there are worse and there will be better Commander-in-Chief's. That is the way America functions. We vote and we complain, but shouldn't complain if we don't vote.

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Jul 19, 2014 10:01:16   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
RixPix wrote:
You're hysterical


Is that your final answer?

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Jul 19, 2014 10:05:38   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
I am one who believes that cutting back on our military will make it a much more efficient force, given our new weapons technology. We just can't continue to spend ourselves into a downward spiral. Look at all we spent with our military might in Vietnam, and we lost that war. Look at Iraq and Afghanistan. Just what have we won in those two countries? Very costly nonsense.
idaholover wrote:
If we had a vibrant economy and less spending on entitlement programs it would help afford important Constitutional requirements. Cut funding for Airforce #1 and Michelles vacations would go a long way!
:lol: :lol:

So, we should limit their play time to the back yard at the White House? :)

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Jul 19, 2014 10:07:23   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
cheineck wrote:
Please Donna, end your useless comments ASAP. It would be most appreciated. Better yet, go back and read what your posts have been, and how they sound now... not so bright, huh?


Easy now it helps to have a memory instead of just a psychopathic disdain for Sarah Palin. Donna has nightmares about Palin blocking front door of a Planned Parenthood facility and it is affecting her sleep patterns.

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Jul 19, 2014 10:09:29   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
idaholover wrote:
Easy now it helps to have a memory instead of just a psychopathic disdain for Sarah Palin. Donna has nightmares about Palin blocking front door of a Planned Parenthood facility and it is affecting her sleep patterns.

Sorry, I'll try to get back on topic!

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Jul 19, 2014 10:13:35   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
I am one who believes that cutting back on our military will make it a much more efficient force, given our new weapons technology. .
CatMarley wrote:
There is a bit of a lie contained in that oft touted idea. Take for instance the now retired warthog. My son, who recently came back from Afghanistan told some interesting stories about calling in air strikes. They loved the warthog who came in low and slow because you knew you were not going to get YOUR ass blown off - that mean, nasty cannon was going to tear up an enemy it could SEE with eyeballs. They were scared to death calling in the fast sophisticated aircraft. Too high too fast too much chance of "friendly" accidents. Now you old salts back off! this is second hand - I was not there, but I believe my kid! Bottom line: they have retired the real efficient old tub. But as Tom Sowell said: "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good."
Thomas Sowell
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May God continue to Bless your son and the Warthog, but what have we gained in Afghanistan, Warthog or not? Today, technology is changing so quickly, that my guess is that much of war-fighting will be done without people in the not too distant future.

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Jul 19, 2014 10:15:11   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
James Shaw wrote:
I am one who believes that cutting back on our military will make it a much more efficient force, given our new weapons technology. We just can't continue to spend ourselves into a downward spiral. Look at all we spent with our military might in Vietnam, and we lost that war. Look at Iraq and Afghanistan. Just what have we won in those two countries? Very costly nonsense.

So is this James!

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/07/18/gov-corbett-says-health-a-main-concern-with-immigration/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/18/two-third-illegal-immigrant-children-okd-asylum/

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