Old vs. new glass
Jul 4, 2014 09:22:39 #
After a long respite I have returned to photography. We all covet new glass, so please help me with this good old glass vs. new lens decision.
I have an old Nikon 35-70 2.8D (small and built like a tank) and a 80-200 2.8D (1988-1992) AF (just a tank). Both profession builds at the time and in perfect condition. I also have the new 16-35 f/4 VR and the kit 24-85 and 70-300VR's. My current "full" bag holds the 16-35, 35-70 and 70-300 plus D600 and D7100.
1. Will the IQ of the old 80-200 equal a new 70-200VRII? If so, can I just live without IS and use the 70-300 lens when IS is needed? 2. I like the 7100/70-300 combo for BIF and wonder how much my IQ would improve with the VR II 3. Will the 35-70 2.8D equal the middle range of the new 24-70?
I shoot - wildlife, BIF, landscapes, some street. (Yeah, I know you'll say just buy the $2400 lens - but look forward to strong reasoning as well) Thanks
Jerry from SW FL.
I have an old Nikon 35-70 2.8D (small and built like a tank) and a 80-200 2.8D (1988-1992) AF (just a tank). Both profession builds at the time and in perfect condition. I also have the new 16-35 f/4 VR and the kit 24-85 and 70-300VR's. My current "full" bag holds the 16-35, 35-70 and 70-300 plus D600 and D7100.
1. Will the IQ of the old 80-200 equal a new 70-200VRII? If so, can I just live without IS and use the 70-300 lens when IS is needed? 2. I like the 7100/70-300 combo for BIF and wonder how much my IQ would improve with the VR II 3. Will the 35-70 2.8D equal the middle range of the new 24-70?
I shoot - wildlife, BIF, landscapes, some street. (Yeah, I know you'll say just buy the $2400 lens - but look forward to strong reasoning as well) Thanks
Jerry from SW FL.
Jul 4, 2014 09:37:01 #
All my lens's are the older D type except for 3 G's...and if you can find them in good to excellent condition they are worth every penny.
Jul 4, 2014 12:10:14 #
I have posted this (twice) as a new topic but it doesn't appear as a new topic. What's up?
Jul 4, 2014 12:18:27 #
It shows up as a new topic for me. Perhaps it would be different if you rephrased it as "New vs. old glass" :-D
Jul 4, 2014 12:20:09 #
kanap wrote:
I have posted this (twice) as a new topic but it doesn't appear as a new topic. What's up?
For some reason on the forum, you have to click away from your topic...then click your name, then choose "topics started" and then you'll see it.
I never see it by going to the forum section itself....I don't know why
Jul 4, 2014 12:34:30 #
[quote=kanap]After a long respite I have returned to photography. We all covet new glass, so please help me with this good old glass vs. new lens decision.
IQ, BIF, What do these abbreviations mean?
IQ, BIF, What do these abbreviations mean?
Jul 4, 2014 12:37:14 #
[quote=Randolph]
Image quality - birds in flights (frequent abv. here)
kanap wrote:
After a long respite I have returned to photography. We all covet new glass, so please help me with this good old glass vs. new lens decision.
IQ, BIF, What do these abbreviations mean?
IQ, BIF, What do these abbreviations mean?
Image quality - birds in flights (frequent abv. here)
Jul 4, 2014 12:44:05 #
[quote=Randolph]
IQ is generally understood to refer to Image Quality in the context of UHH. A less common interpretation here is Intelligence Quotient, something in which many of us are challenged, at least temporarily!
A Google search on BIF is entertaining. So far "Butt In Front" is my favorite, but it could also be Binary Image Format/File, or indeed many other things.
However, we now know its intended use is Birds In Flight.
Is there a commonly used acronyms list somewhere on the forum? I haven't looked, but it could be useful to know.
kanap wrote:
After a long respite I have returned to photography. We all covet new glass, so please help me with this good old glass vs. new lens decision.
IQ, BIF, What do these abbreviations mean?
IQ, BIF, What do these abbreviations mean?
IQ is generally understood to refer to Image Quality in the context of UHH. A less common interpretation here is Intelligence Quotient, something in which many of us are challenged, at least temporarily!
A Google search on BIF is entertaining. So far "Butt In Front" is my favorite, but it could also be Binary Image Format/File, or indeed many other things.
However, we now know its intended use is Birds In Flight.
Is there a commonly used acronyms list somewhere on the forum? I haven't looked, but it could be useful to know.
Jul 4, 2014 12:59:55 #
Frank2013
Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-26493-1.html Abbreviations
Peterff wrote:
IQ is generally understood to refer to Image Quali... (show quote)
Jul 4, 2014 13:06:31 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
kanap wrote:
After a long respite I have returned to photograph... (show quote)
The simple answer is that both optical technology and optical design technology have advanced significantly in the past few decades, and the benefits are most evident with zoom lenses. The glass and coatings are better, and the newer design allows them to be sharper through the zoom range and across the frame. There are still compromises, but the overall results are significant.
There are several options to the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II: the Nikon f/4, Tamron f/2.8, Sigma f/2.8, and a used Nikon VR I, all in the $1200-1500 range. Whether the difference between any of these and the Nikon f/2.8 VR II matter is up to you.
One option is to rent the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II, which would cost about $100. If you find that your lens is good enough, you saved yourself $2300. :-)
Jul 4, 2014 13:11:52 #
RWR
Loc: La Mesa, CA
kanap wrote:
After a long respite I have returned to photograph... (show quote)
Other will undoubtedly disagree, but for real world photography, you would have to go with prime lenses to better what you now have, and in most cases the difference won't be much. Shoot a lot, and enjoy. :)
Jul 4, 2014 13:20:00 #
IQ, BIF, What do these abbreviations mean?[/quote]
Have a look here.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-26493-1.html
Have a look here.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-26493-1.html
Jul 4, 2014 13:26:14 #
kanap wrote:
After a long respite I have returned to photograph... (show quote)
Jerry, read amehta's reply.
Then consider the following. I too have a few older Minolta lenses, some from the mid 1980's. Their performance in terms of Flare and Ghosting DO NOT match modern lenses, but I have at least one that is sharper than anything else in my arsenal, and ALL my older lenses offer different color rendition giving a classic "film" cast to digital images, sometimes to great effect.
Don't throw them away or sell them. If nothing else, they can be used for your landscapes. :thumbup:
Jul 4, 2014 14:57:21 #
I suppose it's not unusual that someone (me) might suggest you follow some advise they themselves follow. I use the Damn Rule. I must hear myself mutter under my breath "Damn, I wish I had that _____ right now!" a certain number of times before I'll run to the B&H website.
Jul 4, 2014 16:14:52 #
Peterff wrote:
IQ = Intelligence Quotient, something in which many of us are challenged, at least temporarily!
But mostly permanently!! :lol:
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