Another View of Hobby Lobby: Liberals may want to boycott H.L. over the recent court decision, but may applaud them for it for its wage scale. Full time employees make a minimum of $14...

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Liberals may want to boycott H.L. over the recent court decision, but may applaud them for it for its wage scale. Full time employees make a minimum of $14 and part-time employees make a minimum of $9.50, well over the minimum wage.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/152495-hobby-lobbys-haters-find-much-pays-employees-may-just-want-get-job/

dljen Loc: Central PA

SteveR wrote:

Liberals may want to boycott H.L. over the recent court decision, but may applaud them for it for its wage scale. Full time employees make a minimum of $14 and part-time employees make a minimum of $9.50, well over the minimum wage.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/152495-hobby-lobbys-haters-find-much-pays-employees-may-just-want-get-job/

This decision is only making way for more companies to follow. A poor decision and liberals are protesting.

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

HL may sown the seeds of it's own undoing by getting this decision.

SteveR wrote:

Liberals may want to boycott H.L. over the recent court decision, but may applaud them for it for its wage scale. Full time employees make a minimum of $14 and part-time employees make a minimum of $9.50, well over the minimum wage.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/152495-hobby-lobbys-haters-find-much-pays-employees-may-just-want-get-job/

SteveR Loc: Michigan

dljen wrote:

This decision is only making way for more companies to follow. A poor decision and liberals are protesting.

If you read the decision you know that the companies able to do so would have to meet certain narrow criteria. It is a decision that applies very narrowly. Your protest is actually much ado about nothing.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

nakkh wrote:

HL may sown the seeds of it's own undoing by getting this decision.

The owners would live with that, I am sure. They were willing to shut their doors rather than live with the alternative. The inability to start companies and avoid these types of abortion inducing birth control devices would have had a chilling effect on Christians going into business.

dljen Loc: Central PA

SteveR wrote:

If you read the decision you know that the companies able to do so would have to meet certain narrow criteria. It is a decision that applies very narrowly. Your protest is actually much ado about nothing.

I have read it. Knowing so much on this subject, as I'm sure you do, you would have read that many other companies are intending to go the way of HL. You also must know that if Walmart chose to, they would be under the "narrow" criteria.

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

SteveR wrote:

If you read the decision you know that the companies able to do so would have to meet certain narrow criteria. It is a decision that applies very narrowly. Your protest is actually much ado about nothing.

You ever spent any time with a high priced lawyer? They could thread their client's criteria through the narrowest of needles if enough billable hours are involved.

We have no idea where the precedent set by the HL decision will go, which is not much ado about nothing.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

dljen wrote:

I have read it. Knowing so much on this subject, as I'm sure you do, you would have read that many other companies are intending to go the way of HL. You also must know that if Walmart chose to, they would be under the "narrow" criteria.

What difference does the number of employees have to do with whether or not these items offend the owners of an enterprise?

More on what "closely held" means.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/hobby-lobby-ruling-begs-question-what-does-closely-held-mean-1404154577

SteveR Loc: Michigan

rgrenaderphoto wrote:

You ever spent any time with a high priced lawyer? They could thread their client's criteria through the narrowest of needles if enough billable hours are involved.

We have no idea where the precedent set by the HL decision will go, which is not much ado about nothing.

It doesn't really matter. What's right is right. The liberal justices were overly concerned about precedent rather than what was right.

So what if four methods of b.c. aren't paid for? That doesn't mean they aren't available for purchase.

dljen Loc: Central PA

SteveR wrote:

It doesn't really matter. What's right is right. The liberal justices were overly concerned about precedent rather than what was right.

So what if four methods of b.c. aren't paid for? That doesn't mean they aren't available for purchase.

The liberal justices saw the writing on the wall. They knew what would happen and sure enough it has. The regressive justices sided with religion.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

dljen wrote:

The liberal justices saw the writing on the wall. They knew what would happen and sure enough it has. The regressive justices sided with religion.

They decided that owners have some rights, too.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

SteveR wrote:

Liberals may want to boycott H.L. over the recent court decision, but may applaud them for it for its wage scale. Full time employees make a minimum of $14 and part-time employees make a minimum of $9.50, well over the minimum wage.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/152495-hobby-lobbys-haters-find-much-pays-employees-may-just-want-get-job/

All the liberals have spun this decision to mean that the supreme court and thereby republicans are against women having contraception. All you hear is how repubs are conducting conduction a waar on women. This is not what Hobby Lobby has advocated nor what the supreme court said. Some, hobby lobby and others did not want to pay for abortions. Of the 20 kinds of contraceptives lhe ruling only involved 4. Those 4 are the "morrning after pills" Hobby lobby pays for contraceptives but not abortions. The republicans are allowing the liberals to dominate the discusion. Why don't they fight the misinformation with the truth. The rebublican party has crap marketing. Thaat's why they loose elections. That's why Romney lost. Unless the Repubs get better marketing they will continue to loose. They should learn to demonize their opponents. Sidestep questions and when necessary be less than truthful. They werte so afrtaid to critize obama for fear of being called rascist that they allowed obama to lie himself into oiffice 2 times. Unless they learn to fight dirty they will continue to loose.

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

Well if it puts them out of business, good. It will teach other companies to live in the real world & respect the private lives of their employees. Forcing your personal beliefs on others is selfish & wrong.

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At any rate, if this impacts their business negatively, you watch how fast they'll do a 180 and allow birth control.

SteveR wrote:

The owners would live with that, I am sure. They were willing to shut their doors rather than live with the alternative. The inability to start companies and avoid these types of abortion inducing birth control devices would have had a chilling effect on Christians going into business.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

dljen wrote:

This decision is only making way for more companies to follow. A poor decision and liberals are protesting.

Soooooo Stupid, the courts turned the provision of the drugs in question back over to HHS and instructed HHS to find a different way to provide the drugs.... The employees will be denied nothing! So libs can go on about pissing and moaning about Hobby Lobby but they are not doing so in protest for women's rights, they are doing so because they have no tolerance for religion or challenges to progressive tyranny.

dljen Loc: Central PA

Blurryeyed wrote:

Soooooo Stupid, the courts turned the provision of the drugs in question back over to HHS and instructed HHS to find a different way to provide the drugs.... The employees will be denied nothing! So libs can go on about pissing and moaning about Hobby Lobby but they are not doing so in protest for women's rights, they are doing so because they have no tolerance for religion or challenges to progressive tyranny.

You deny that other companies aren't going to follow this?