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Veteran denied motel room in Daytona Beach because he had service dog
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Jun 26, 2014 18:40:55   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
dljen wrote:
This isn't a veteran issue, it's a disability issue.

Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), privately owned businesses that serve the public, such as restaurants, hotels, retail stores, taxicabs, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities, are prohibited from discriminating against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires these businesses to allow people with disabilities to bring their service animals onto business premises in whatever areas customers are generally allowed.
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Yes, that is the area of law that was violated. I though I made that clear in a previous post. Does the fact that the victim was a combat veteran influence your opinion of the event?

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Jun 26, 2014 18:47:42   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Samuraiz wrote:
Yes, that is the area of law that was violated. I though I made that clear in a previous post. Does the fact that the victim was a combat veteran influence your opinion of the event?


No, not at all. First and most importantly, he was disabled. How he became disabled is of no consequence.

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Jun 26, 2014 19:25:33   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Samuraiz wrote:
I wish this type of discrimination received the same amount of air time as anti-gay discrimination receives.

If this was about a same sex couple being refused service, It would be all over MSNBC, Huffpost, Mother Jones etc.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/veteran-denied-motel-room-daytona-beach-because-he/ngSWM/


Typical ignorant reaction from Daytona area. What a bunch of hicks.

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Jun 26, 2014 22:53:11   #
Cattreasure
 
dljen wrote:
This isn't a veteran issue, it's a disability issue.

Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), privately owned businesses that serve the public, such as restaurants, hotels, retail stores, taxicabs, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities, are prohibited from discriminating against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires these businesses to allow people with disabilities to bring their service animals onto business premises in whatever areas customers are generally allowed.
This isn't a veteran issue, it's a disability issu... (show quote)


Totally agree with you. It's a disability issue. Several years ago I was talking with a woman in Wall, SD. She had a service dog and had been denied a room at a Super 8 because of her dog. Her dog wears a service dog jacket stating he is a service dog. Please do not pet. Her disability was a back injury from her job at a nursing home. After arguing with the front desk and informing them of the law, they agreed to let her stay for a rather large additional charge. She went elsewhere.

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Jun 26, 2014 22:55:10   #
Smokey Here
 
RixPix wrote:
Typical ignorant reaction from Daytona area. What a bunch of hicks.


There's a lot more problems in this country coming from or should I say THROUGH miami than from Daytona my friend!

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Jun 26, 2014 23:09:37   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Cattreasure wrote:
Totally agree with you. It's a disability issue. Several years ago I was talking with a woman in Wall, SD. She had a service dog and had been denied a room at a Super 8 because of her dog. Her dog wears a service dog jacket stating he is a service dog. Please do not pet. Her disability was a back injury from her job at a nursing home. After arguing with the front desk and informing them of the law, they agreed to let her stay for a rather large additional charge. She went elsewhere.


It's illegal under the ADA to charge extra. This man looks very fit in the video but who knows, looks can be deceiving. If he is "playing the system," he's not doing disabled folks any favors. He should carry and show the proper papers for having a service dog. I didn't notice whether he said he did or not.

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Jun 26, 2014 23:32:25   #
chase4 Loc: Punta Corona, California
 
Samuraiz wrote:
Yes, that is the area of law that was violated. I though I made that clear in a previous post. Does the fact that the victim was a combat veteran influence your opinion of the event?


Motel 6 will allow any declared dog (well behaved) to stay for free. We use them often with no problems, check out their website.

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Jun 26, 2014 23:37:06   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Smokey Here wrote:
There's a lot more problems in this country coming from or should I say THROUGH miami than from Daytona my friend!


Don't expect me to defend Miami or any part of this trailer park called Florida. I had never met truly uneducated white people until I moved to Florida. This place is one rabid dog shy of being Mississippi.

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Jun 27, 2014 05:48:51   #
tturner Loc: Savannah Ga
 
I once went into a "convenience" store owned by middle easterners, all I wanted was change for a dollar to put air in a tire. He refused unless I made a minimum $5.00 purchase. This as also in Florida, or should I say FloriDUH.

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Jun 27, 2014 06:26:36   #
Red Bear
 
I'm following this with interest because I'm deeply embedded in the VA medical system and hear stories like this (or worse) almost every day. Most people are not aware of the reach of the ADA and even those that are usually don'y realize that many animal can be "service animals" not just dogs. Also, I'm fairly certain that "proof" in not required under the law, but, of course, would be prudent.

If I get to the point that I need a "service animal" - to protect the public from me - I'm gonna git a trained Grizzly and see who might argue with that! :shock: :oops: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jun 27, 2014 06:29:01   #
johnst1001a Loc: West Chester, Ohio
 
If the dog had a "tag" saying it was a legit service dog, then I think the law requires access. I would certainly sue. But if the dog is not licensed as a service dog, but the owner just says the dog is a service dog, then I think it is within the establishments right to refuse. I would obviously look at the person. If they have an obvious handicap, let the person in, otherwise the person is probably just wanting to let their dog sleep in the hotel room.

My daughter had this situation at her hospital, a person walked in the lobby and wanted to go visit someone in a room, and said her dog was a service dog. No tags, no obvious handicap, so they hospital refused, and asked the person to leave.

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Jun 27, 2014 06:54:29   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
The challenge these days is that it seems that almost any condition can warrant a service animal. A cat helps someone's anxiety - I am sure it does (well, maybe until it runs off to chase a squirrel and gets squashed by a truck), but should they bring it in to a restaurant? As more and more conditions get people a service animal, more and more owners of establishments are going to have problems accepting them. It is not fair that someone have to discuss their personal health problems with every hotel clerk or restaurant hostess, but the "service animal creep" will make it harder and harder on those who need them.

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Jun 27, 2014 06:58:55   #
Tango44 Loc: Kentucky
 
Just asking, do Service Dog recipients have identification cards they can carry with them like a driver's license? I cannot imagine any institution these days not following ADA requirements. The Manager of this motel was ignorant of the law. My heart goes out to the young man for having to experience this after his service. Hooray for the police that knew where he would be accepted warmly.

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Jun 27, 2014 07:19:29   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Tango44 wrote:
Just asking, do Service Dog recipients have identification cards they can carry with them like a driver's license? I cannot imagine any institution these days not following ADA requirements. The Manager of this motel was ignorant of the law. My heart goes out to the young man for having to experience this after his service. Hooray for the police that knew where he would be accepted warmly.


Did you watch the video? He looks in very good condition and initially walked into the motel asking for a room without his dog, it was in his truck. He saw the sign on the wall and then asked about his dog. The business had a "No Dog" policy and she'd probably never been confronted with this situation before.

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Jun 27, 2014 07:24:13   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
Tango44 wrote:
Just asking, do Service Dog recipients have identification cards they can carry with them like a driver's license? I cannot imagine any institution these days not following ADA requirements. The Manager of this motel was ignorant of the law. My heart goes out to the young man for having to experience this after his service. Hooray for the police that knew where he would be accepted warmly.


It's not just service men, It is anyone needing assistance. All service animals are trained and certified to perform a task, not just for the blind. Some are trained to detect when a person is about to have a seizure, and will pull the person down safely before they fall down. Some may be trained to pick an object up and give it to owner. The reasons vary for what ever the reason, but every animal is certified, and they are not pets by any means. Certification can be a tag or papers, they are identified by the vest they wear saying they are a service animal.

Here is an articular of why they are tagged and certified and people that take advantage of it and how.

http://www.petsadviser.com/service-animal/fake-service-dogs/

And here is where you can find the registration number of any dog or animal that is registered and legit.

http://www.usservicedogregistry.org/

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