rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)

It’s often said, if you give a man a fish, he will eat for one day but if you teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime. Attributed to Benjamin Franklin is a similar sentiment: “I am for doing good to the poor, but…I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed…that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

Benjamin Franklin in 2016!!!!!! :thumbup:

rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)

I take it you have NEVER read any AMERICAN history, @$$hole. How about 1787???

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Rf, You couldn't be more wrong. Statistically, helping the poor helps them lift themselves from poverty and doesn't keep them there.
The belief that some of you have is amazing. You blame poverty on people being lazy and every study ever done shows the exact opposite.
If they were so lazy why would you find so many poor people working two or even three jobs?
It's time for you to do some research and then get back to us.

user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32

If I'm not mistaken, he was recommending BF facetiously for president in the upcoming election in 2016.

ted45 Loc: Delaware

I would agree with you in principle but something has gone terribly wrong over the last decade or two.

In 2000 I started teaching displaced people new careers. Their expenses were paid for with public tax dollars. In 2000 the people that sat in my classroom were eager to learn and get a new career and support themselves. I 2010 I resigned and retired form the job because the students had gotten so lazy they would not even remove the text books from the shrink wrap. If I asked a question that they should have read in their homework, I would see a sea of iPhones looking up the answer online. Somehow a smart phone and Google has become the answer to actually taking the time to learn. When did welfare and unemployment start paying for iPhones?

What went wrong? I have no idea.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Now, Now FrankT why would you want to destroy their myth? One needs to justify the lack of christian charity in the souls of these christians. Of course being poor or falling on hard times is the fault of the person so afflicted. After they have not fallen on hard times and have never been poor and if and when they were there was someone to pick them up - family or friend - but they will tell you they did it pulling on their boot straps! They never considered that they had boots!

bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona

He didn't have to kiss derrieres, he wasn't trying to stay in office like they do today.

If you vote for me, you'll never have to work again.

rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)

How 'bout the "mamas" (with 6 - 15 children, and don't even know who the "daddies" are) that are getting $50K - $65K from "welfare". It used to be, to get a welfare check that one had to work 20 hours/week (and "baby sitting" would be provided by everyone's tax $'s)??? BUT, your @SShol& prez cancelled that requirement.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

While it is true that some will work themselves out of poverty if given some kind of welfare, the large majority will not and welfare is a path to dependence.This has been seen in any number of Of groups. In colonial times a group of people agreed that the land would be owned and farmed by all and the crops would be shared by all. This agreement worked at first but as time passed some realized that their share share would be the same whather or not they worked, so fewer and fewer people worked the land. Soon the groop started to starve because not enough food was grown. So in oeder to fix the difficulty it was agreed that the land would be divided equally among the families so that each would be responsible for their own production. The takers among them had to work their own land. As a result the group thrived. Without incentive some will not succede that is just human nature. Yes there needs to be some kind of safety net , but for some, the dole is a disencentive.

Captryan Loc: Massachusetts

Frank , please listen to the woman on this you tube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRRwZDSmTVI