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Jun 21, 2014 11:57:23   #
SteveS Loc: The US is my home.
 
This should solve the whole issue of the Redskins Logo. They get to keep the team name and our politicians get a PC logo.


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Jun 21, 2014 12:27:47   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
SteveS wrote:
This should solve the whole issue of the Redskins Logo. They get to keep the team name and our politicians get a PC logo.


I am 1/4th Chickasaw and my father was half. We are both on the tribal roles of the Oklahoma Chickasaw tribe. I have to say that I am extremely disappointed in the US Government trying to be so politically correct. I do not see anything wrong with the Washington Redskin logo. As a Native American "American Indian" I kind of look fondly on the representative depiction of the American Indian being a great warrior and skilled in both hunting and combat. The Chickasaw tribe was one of the Five Civilized Tribes. But I was upset when the University of Oklahoma did away with their "Little Red" mascot, which was required to be a student at the University with 100% Native American blood and he was required to do authentic American Indian dances on the sidelines.

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Jun 21, 2014 12:33:56   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
I am 1/4th Chickasaw and my father was half. We are both on the tribal roles of the Oklahoma Chickasaw tribe. I have to say that I am extremely disappointed in the US Government trying to be so politically correct. I do not see anything wrong with the Washington Redskin logo. As a Native American "American Indian" I kind of look fondly on the representative depiction of the American Indian being a great warrior and skilled in both hunting and combat. The Chickasaw tribe was one of the Five Civilized Tribes. But I was upset when the University of Oklahoma did away with their "Little Red" mascot, which was required to be a student at the University with 100% Native American blood and he was required to do authentic American Indian dances on the sidelines.
I am 1/4th Chickasaw and my father was half. We a... (show quote)


I am Irish and Apache so have doubts anytime the government makes decisions on Native Americans behalf. There is always an ulterior motive surrounding such shenanigans. Seldom is it a positive reflection for Indian culture or our security.

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Jun 21, 2014 12:38:33   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
do to the last years record. Final Record: 3-13, 0-6 (NFC East) think they should call them the cantors.

A TIME-LINE ON THE FIGHT TO GET RID OF THE OFFENSIVE MASCOTS

http://www.nativevillage.org/Messages%20from%20the%20People/timeline%20for%20Indian%20Mascots.htm

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Jun 21, 2014 13:04:45   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
If those are potatoes in that dish, that logo will never work...it's derogatory toward the Irish!

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Jun 21, 2014 13:41:20   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
cjkorb wrote:
If those are potatoes in that dish, that logo will never work...it's derogatory toward the Irish!


I guess he could have used redskin peanuts but then the peanut farmers would have to be sued for getting free advertising. And Baseball teams would sue because peanuts are more common at baseball games or the zoo, or whatever.

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Jun 21, 2014 13:48:02   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
SteveS wrote:
This should solve the whole issue of the Redskins Logo. They get to keep the team name and our politicians get a PC logo.


I am willing to bet that if 50,000 people formed a group and called themselves "the Cowards" and hired a fancy lawyer to sue the Atlanta Braves for having a name that they found offensive, they would find support. After all many brave southerners died in a war against "the Yankees" In the South in 1862 Being merely called a Yankee would be a death sentence. The NY Yankees should be forced to change their name

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Jun 21, 2014 16:17:11   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
As a Native American "American Indian" I kind of look fondly on the representative depiction of the American Indian being a great warrior and skilled in both hunting and combat.


You touch upon a forgotten aspect of this controversy. It's entirely possible that more (a lot more) Native Americans feel the same way you do. But no one is asking you. Therefore a vocal, probably well-financed (by non-Native Americans), small minority gets to steal your pride... and all the rest of us non-native Americans wonder what the heck is going on.

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Jun 21, 2014 16:31:31   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
davefales wrote:
You touch upon a forgotten aspect of this controversy. It's entirely possible that more (a lot more) Native Americans feel the same way you do. But no one is asking you. Therefore a vocal, probably well-financed, small minority gets to steal your pride... and all the rest of us non-native Americans wonder what the heck is going on.


Exactly, I used to live in Connecticut and heard from my boss at a very large insurance company in the capitol city by the same name that according to documents, the leaders of the Foxon Indian Tribe, that owns Foxwoods were not Indians at all, they were extremely well connected (if you know what I mean) members of the Italian community. They found that as a "Indian Tribe" that they could get the rights to build a casino and gambling rights between Boston and NYC. They created a " history " . Got it documented by some politicians that were hoping for a little help in their election campaigns and other gratuities. These guys were no more American Indian than George Washington. But with money and political pull they got away with it.

I tend to think that certain political parties are using the radical American Indians... most vocal and ones that really just want the government to give them a free ride to get votes. Then they can say, "look what we did for the minorities". Well, technically, I guess, I am sort of a minority, and I have worked every day since 7th grade. I worked 2-3 hours after school and in summers, went into the military, worked part time while in the military when I was where I could, and have worked full time ever since. I don't believe in free rides. If you are physically or mentally challenged, that is a different story, but if you can work and are either under retirement age or have enough money to retire, then get out there and do it. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are people that are under employed and can't do any better because of the economy, job market, or their education. But at least they are trying.

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Jun 22, 2014 06:00:27   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
cjkorb wrote:
If those are potatoes in that dish, that logo will never work...it's derogatory toward the Irish!


I didn't know that the irish potatoes were red.

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Jun 22, 2014 06:03:20   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
if they can't cut a deal with an indian tribe to use their name, then how about p.p.ing the logo to a different skin tone and calling themselves the Washington Warriors.

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Jun 22, 2014 06:33:44   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
bull drink water wrote:
if they can't cut a deal with an indian tribe to use their name, then how about p.p.ing the logo to a different skin tone and calling themselves the Washington Warriors.


Or they could change their logo to someone incredibly sunburned and remain the redskins.. but I think they would have to move to a more sunny climate. lol... Or donate a couple of million dollars to some Indian charity and shut them up.

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Jun 22, 2014 07:13:14   #
jsmangis Loc: Peoria, IL
 
My father and my son-in-law both graduated from the University of Illinois. My father's roommate, his junior year war the student chosen to be Chief Illiniwek. For any of you not familiar with this fictional character, he was the mascot of the team and the symbol of the university. His "costume" was hand made by members of the Illini tribe in Oaklahoma. His performance, at all basketball and football games was choreographed by members of the tribe also. In fact, is very existence was sanctioned by the tribal council. Every aspect of his persona was with the upmost respect to the Illini, and all other native americans. When the NAACP stuck their noses into this issue with their "politically correct" attitude,, every
One here said "what about the Washing Redskins and the Atlanta Braves?". I guess that all the chickens have come home to roost.

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Jun 22, 2014 07:36:38   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
jsmangis wrote:
My father and my son-in-law both graduated from the University of Illinois. My father's roommate, his junior year war the student chosen to be Chief Illiniwek. For any of you not familiar with this fictional character, he was the mascot of the team and the symbol of the university. His "costume" was hand made by members of the Illini tribe in Oaklahoma. His performance, at all basketball and football games was choreographed by members of the tribe also. In fact, is very existence was sanctioned by the tribal council. Every aspect of his persona was with the upmost respect to the Illini, and all other native americans. When the NAACP stuck their noses into this issue with their "politically correct" attitude,, every
One here said "what about the Washing Redskins and the Atlanta Braves?". I guess that all the chickens have come home to roost.
My father and my son-in-law both graduated from th... (show quote)


This was the same that that happened with "Little Red" at the University of Oklahoma. His costume was originally designed by the tribe, he had to be 100% Native American and a member of one of the Oklahoma tribes which meant that he had to be from Oklahoma. HIs dances were all original Native American Dances (The same dances you see every year at Red Earth in Oklahoma City) and he was one of 3 highly respected mascots and symbols at OU football games and other sporting events and rallies. Based on this, does that mean that all Native American dances and conventions will be outlawed too because they are PNC?

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Jun 22, 2014 09:45:38   #
Michael Hartley Loc: Deer Capital of Georgia
 
'Washington Dickheads'. Seems fitting to me.

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