Is Christianity reasonable? God, Information and Codes
Jun 19, 2014 08:00:31 #
Is it reasonable to believe that God exists?
What's the alternative?
Matter, and blind, random chance.
But is random chance sufficient to explain anything?
Blind chance acting on matter cannot explain anything, including itself. If you spill your beer by accident, you dont ask the beer how it got there. The beer is an accident, and it cannot explain itself.
The Bud isn't wiser.
One needs a person to explain the beer spill. If our world is an accident, just some cosmic sneeze, then we cannot explain ourselves, including the statement that we cannot explain ourselves. Thus the proposition, we are an accident that cannot explain itself, is a false statement.
It is self-demolishing.
If this piques your interest...then read the article at this link:
http://godsnotdead315.blogspot.com/2014/04/god-exists-information-codes-and.html
What's the alternative?
Matter, and blind, random chance.
But is random chance sufficient to explain anything?
Blind chance acting on matter cannot explain anything, including itself. If you spill your beer by accident, you dont ask the beer how it got there. The beer is an accident, and it cannot explain itself.
The Bud isn't wiser.
One needs a person to explain the beer spill. If our world is an accident, just some cosmic sneeze, then we cannot explain ourselves, including the statement that we cannot explain ourselves. Thus the proposition, we are an accident that cannot explain itself, is a false statement.
It is self-demolishing.
If this piques your interest...then read the article at this link:
http://godsnotdead315.blogspot.com/2014/04/god-exists-information-codes-and.html
Jun 21, 2014 13:19:50 #
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We know we are not just a random accident profused from an ancient impersonal big-bang. An explosion does not have order. The universe has order.
Jan 4, 2017 08:14:44 #
as we advance, our beliefs get more complicated, but not necessacarily better.
1 in the beginning God was up there, and we hoped he would help us.
2 then we had to worship and sacrifice to him.
3 then we conjured up a bunch of laws he wanted us to follow.
4 then we had to have a purpose, making it from birth to death and passing on life and knowledge to our decendants wasn't enough.
5 then we just had to know the mind of God so that we use every jot and tiddle to control our lives.
1 in the beginning God was up there, and we hoped he would help us.
2 then we had to worship and sacrifice to him.
3 then we conjured up a bunch of laws he wanted us to follow.
4 then we had to have a purpose, making it from birth to death and passing on life and knowledge to our decendants wasn't enough.
5 then we just had to know the mind of God so that we use every jot and tiddle to control our lives.
Jan 4, 2017 08:17:14 #
bull drink water wrote:
as we advance, our beliefs get more complicated, b... (show quote)
The obvious question is: how could you possibly know this and is it possible that you are wrong?
Jan 5, 2017 11:42:32 #
You don.t reason, or question what you believe by faith; you simply accept it. :)
Jan 5, 2017 11:46:12 #
steve40 wrote:
You don.t reason, or question what you believe by faith; you simply accept it. :)
That may be true for you but not for me.
Just because I believe that the claims of Christianity are true doesn't mean I don't reason, think, nor question it.
The fact is, it's the ONLY worldview that can stand up when examined closely....the ONLY worldview that can account for things like; morality, logic, knowledge, everything.
In the case of the original post, information comes from a mind; it must...and that's the mind of God.
Jan 5, 2017 13:49:30 #
rpavich wrote:
That may be true for you but not for me.
Just because I believe that the claims of Christianity are true doesn't mean I don't reason, think, nor question it.
The fact is, it's the ONLY worldview that can stand up when examined closely....the ONLY worldview that can account for things like; morality, logic, knowledge, everything.
In the case of the original post, information comes from a mind; it must...and that's the mind of God.
Just because I believe that the claims of Christianity are true doesn't mean I don't reason, think, nor question it.
The fact is, it's the ONLY worldview that can stand up when examined closely....the ONLY worldview that can account for things like; morality, logic, knowledge, everything.
In the case of the original post, information comes from a mind; it must...and that's the mind of God.
Well exactly! what do you mean by Question it ?.
If you mean that we sometimes struggle with understanding things, our finite mind cannot comprehend of the infinite, the answer = Yes!. But if you mean to doubt the essentials of Faith, the answer = No!. There are some things we will always struggle with, because it is not given us to know. The reason being in our present state of flesh, we cannot fully comprehend the Spiritual. Therefore we must simply accept it by God given Faith, after all it's not natural Faith, but Supernatural, and is a gift of Salvation.
Jan 5, 2017 13:59:10 #
steve40 wrote:
Well exactly! what do you mean by Question it ?. ... (show quote)
That is what I meant. yes.
Jan 19, 2017 11:38:08 #
Feb 5, 2017 07:48:55 #
StanRP
Loc: Ontario Canada
Abo wrote:
Is Christianity reasonable? Only imbeciles or the evil could think it is not.
Hi,
Question: "Is Christianity reasonable?"
Before judging those who answer in the negative - both 'Christianity' and 'reasonable' need to be defined.
1) There are many different groups that come under the general heading of 'Christianity'.
2) What one person would consider to be reasonable, another may not.
StanRP
Feb 5, 2017 08:24:59 #
StanRP wrote:
Hi,
Question: "Is Christianity reasonable?"
Before judging those who answer in the negative - both 'Christianity' and 'reasonable' need to be defined.
1) There are many different groups that come under the general heading of 'Christianity'.
2) What one person would consider to be reasonable, another may not.
StanRP
Question: "Is Christianity reasonable?"
Before judging those who answer in the negative - both 'Christianity' and 'reasonable' need to be defined.
1) There are many different groups that come under the general heading of 'Christianity'.
2) What one person would consider to be reasonable, another may not.
StanRP
Orthodox Christianity as defined by the bible.
Reasonable. I would think that this needed no definition for adults.
Feb 5, 2017 09:33:02 #
StanRP
Loc: Ontario Canada
rpavich wrote:
Orthodox Christianity as defined by the bible.
Reasonable. I would think that this needed no definition for adults.
Reasonable. I would think that this needed no definition for adults.
Hi,
"Christianity as defined by the bible." is a very good definition.
Unfortunately is is not the only one, and some are not even related to the bible.
This is why I was suggesting that stating "Only imbeciles or the evil could think it is not" was not reasonable.
StanRP
Feb 5, 2017 10:39:04 #
StanRP wrote:
Hi,
"Christianity as defined by the bible." is a very good definition.
Unfortunately is is not the only one, and some are not even related to the bible.
This is why I was suggesting that stating "Only imbeciles or the evil could think it is not" was not reasonable.
StanRP
"Christianity as defined by the bible." is a very good definition.
Unfortunately is is not the only one, and some are not even related to the bible.
This is why I was suggesting that stating "Only imbeciles or the evil could think it is not" was not reasonable.
StanRP
What I said is reasonable Stan.
If we all could adopt the practices of Jesus, this would be a better world... that is reasonable and irrefutable...
any who deny that are (I said it before and I'm saying it again) either imbeciles or evil.
Feb 5, 2017 12:00:57 #
StanRP
Loc: Ontario Canada
Abo wrote:
What I said is reasonable Stan.
If we all could adopt the practices of Jesus, this would be a better world... that is reasonable and irrefutable...
any who deny that are (I said it before and I'm saying it again) either imbeciles or evil.
If we all could adopt the practices of Jesus, this would be a better world... that is reasonable and irrefutable...
any who deny that are (I said it before and I'm saying it again) either imbeciles or evil.
No disagreement at all with the above.
Feb 23, 2017 10:38:10 #
Not really!. Sinful people cannot adopt the practices of Jesus, and can't understand the need. Of course just adopting some one's behavior will not! make you a better person, only a good actor.
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