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Jun 16, 2014 11:11:28   #
Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
It is important for EVERYONE to know, and understand, what an infidel is and what it means to your family.

WHAT IS AN INFIDEL?

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry.


The man who walks with God always gets to his destination.
If you have a pulse you have a purpose.


The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the
United States , especially in the minority races!!


Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
Maintaining my state prison security clearance.


During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers
Representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths,
Who each explained their beliefs.


I was particularly interested in what the Islamic had to say.
The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.


After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:

'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most
Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the
Infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel,
(which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured a place in heaven.

If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'


There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation,
He replied, 'Non-believers!'

I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill

Everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven.


Is that correct?'


The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'


He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'


I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have
A real problem trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'

The Muslim was speechless!

I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question:

Would you rather have your Allah,
Who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'


You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.


Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the
'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with my way
Of dealing with the Islamic Imam,
And exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.


In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the President!


I think everyone in the WORLD!!! Should be required to read this,
But with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely
Publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance
To make a difference...

Please, for Christ's sake, send it on!

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Jun 16, 2014 11:17:01   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
Muslims represent 0.8% of the US population.

...the fastest growing things are always the smallest.

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Jun 16, 2014 11:20:16   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
We already have a muslim president.

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Jun 16, 2014 11:22:40   #
Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
Gitz0 wrote:
Muslims represent 0.8% of the US population.

...the fastest growing things are always the smallest.


Does that mean we should not worry about it??

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Jun 16, 2014 11:22:55   #
Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
tradio wrote:
We already have a muslim president.


agree

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Jun 16, 2014 11:26:26   #
spphoto Loc: Long Island,N.Y.
 
Jews and Christians are not infidels.

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Jun 16, 2014 11:32:45   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
Does that mean we should not worry about it??
Should we be worrying about this:
Quote:
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the President!

Human fetuses increase in weight 25 fold in the 1st 16 weeks! Should we also worry about 47 pound babies being born?

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Jun 16, 2014 11:55:13   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
It is important for EVERYONE to know, and understand, what an infidel is and what it means to your family.

WHAT IS AN INFIDEL?

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry.


The man who walks with God always gets to his destination.
If you have a pulse you have a purpose.


The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the
United States , especially in the minority races!!


Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
Maintaining my state prison security clearance.


During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers
Representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths,
Who each explained their beliefs.


I was particularly interested in what the Islamic had to say.
The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.


After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:

'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most
Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the
Infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel,
(which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured a place in heaven.

If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'


There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation,
He replied, 'Non-believers!'

I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill

Everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven.


Is that correct?'


The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'


He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'


I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have
A real problem trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'

The Muslim was speechless!

I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question:

Would you rather have your Allah,
Who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'


You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.


Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the
'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with my way
Of dealing with the Islamic Imam,
And exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.


In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the President!


I think everyone in the WORLD!!! Should be required to read this,
But with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely
Publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance
To make a difference...

Please, for Christ's sake, send it on!
It is important for EVERYONE to know, and underst... (show quote)


I'm always a little wary of anything that starts with "This is a true story".
But that aside, what do you think the inquisitions and the crusades were all about? And at the time, the Roman Catholic Church was a lot older than Islam is now.

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Jun 16, 2014 12:27:26   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
Very interesting, Robert. Thanks for posting.

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Jun 16, 2014 12:57:36   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
It is important for EVERYONE to know, and understand, what an infidel is and what it means to your family.

WHAT IS AN INFIDEL?

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry.


The man who walks with God always gets to his destination.
If you have a pulse you have a purpose.


The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the
United States , especially in the minority races!!


Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
Maintaining my state prison security clearance.


During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers
Representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths,
Who each explained their beliefs.


I was particularly interested in what the Islamic had to say.
The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.


After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:

'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most
Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the
Infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel,
(which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured a place in heaven.

If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'


There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation,
He replied, 'Non-believers!'

I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill

Everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven.


Is that correct?'


The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'


He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'


I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have
A real problem trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'

The Muslim was speechless!

I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question:

Would you rather have your Allah,
Who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'


You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.


Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the
'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with my way
Of dealing with the Islamic Imam,
And exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.


In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the President!


I think everyone in the WORLD!!! Should be required to read this,
But with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely
Publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance
To make a difference...

Please, for Christ's sake, send it on!
It is important for EVERYONE to know, and understa... (show quote)



Pure Zionist propaganda directed at the terminally stupid.

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Jun 16, 2014 13:03:57   #
NeilL Loc: British-born Canadian
 
larrypayne wrote:
Pure Zionist propaganda directed at the terminally stupid.


Look what the cat brought up.

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Jun 16, 2014 13:30:07   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
larrypayne wrote:
Pure Zionist propaganda directed at the terminally stupid.


How does the Quran define an infidel? According to the Quran how are infidels to be treated if they reject Allah or the prophet Muhammad? Educate us Larry afterall that's your mission here is it not?

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Jun 16, 2014 13:43:37   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
Pepper wrote:
How does the Quran define an infidel? According to the Quran how are infidels to be treated if they reject Allah or the prophet Muhammad? Educate us Larry afterall that's your mission here is it not?


This site indicates the Quran verses suggesting violence on infidels was cherry-picked from verses that only applied to a historical period.

The verses that apply to infidels today go as follows:

"Quran 2:190 Fight in the cause of God those who start fighting you, but do not transgress limits (or start the attack); for God loveth not transgressors.

Indeed, according to other verses, even if a Muslim deemed someone an infidel, according to the Quran, he is still obligated to:

1. Behave with courtesy :
Consider, for instance, the following verse, which is supposed to instruct Muslims as to how they should deal with non-Muslims in the midst of hostilities (such as war): 9:6 And if any of the Idolatries (who are fighting you) seeks thy protection, grant him protection, so that he might be able to hear the word of God from thee; and thereupon convey him to a place where he can feel secure:
If Muslims are to behave with such clemency and magnanimity vis-a-vis the infidel during times of war and conflict, how much more should be expected of their interactions with non-Muslims during times of peace?

2. Respect his freedom of choice to be a "Disbeliever" - as this is a right bestowed upon humanity by God:
Quran 18:29 proclaims, "The truth is from your Lord": it is the free will of any person to believe (in God) or to be an Infidel (Un believer).

3. Even if a Muslim should be convinced that someone is a non-believer, still he must accept that his fate is in the hands of God alone, since no one human can condemn another - this must be left to the judgment of God.
Quran 88:25-26 for behold, unto (ONLY) Us (means God) will be their return, Then it will be for (ONLY) Us to Judge (humans).
22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean an ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things. "
http://www.islamforpeace.org/quran.html#point1

Hope that adds to your education, Pepper.

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Jun 16, 2014 13:54:54   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
larrypayne wrote:
This site indicates the Quran verses suggesting violence on infidels was cherry-picked from verses that only applied to a historical period.

The verses that apply to infidels today go as follows:

"Quran 2:190 Fight in the cause of God those who start fighting you, but do not transgress limits (or start the attack); for God loveth not transgressors.

Indeed, according to other verses, even if a Muslim deemed someone an infidel, according to the Quran, he is still obligated to:

1. Behave with courtesy :
Consider, for instance, the following verse, which is supposed to instruct Muslims as to how they should deal with non-Muslims in the midst of hostilities (such as war): 9:6 And if any of the Idolatries (who are fighting you) seeks thy protection, grant him protection, so that he might be able to hear the word of God from thee; and thereupon convey him to a place where he can feel secure:
If Muslims are to behave with such clemency and magnanimity vis-a-vis the infidel during times of war and conflict, how much more should be expected of their interactions with non-Muslims during times of peace?

2. Respect his freedom of choice to be a "Disbeliever" - as this is a right bestowed upon humanity by God:
Quran 18:29 proclaims, "The truth is from your Lord": it is the free will of any person to believe (in God) or to be an Infidel (Un believer).

3. Even if a Muslim should be convinced that someone is a non-believer, still he must accept that his fate is in the hands of God alone, since no one human can condemn another - this must be left to the judgment of God.
Quran 88:25-26 for behold, unto (ONLY) Us (means God) will be their return, Then it will be for (ONLY) Us to Judge (humans).
22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean an ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things. "
http://www.islamforpeace.org/quran.html#point1

Hope that adds to your education, Pepper.
This site indicates the Quran verses suggesting vi... (show quote)


Some of your friends must not have read this. They are busy cutting off heads. Why not educate them so that they will act more Godly. Or at least, human.

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Jun 16, 2014 13:57:36   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
larrypayne wrote:
This site indicates the Quran verses suggesting violence on infidels was cherry-picked from verses that only applied to a historical period.

The verses that apply to infidels today go as follows:

"Quran 2:190 Fight in the cause of God those who start fighting you, but do not transgress limits (or start the attack); for God loveth not transgressors.

Indeed, according to other verses, even if a Muslim deemed someone an infidel, according to the Quran, he is still obligated to:

1. Behave with courtesy :
Consider, for instance, the following verse, which is supposed to instruct Muslims as to how they should deal with non-Muslims in the midst of hostilities (such as war): 9:6 And if any of the Idolatries (who are fighting you) seeks thy protection, grant him protection, so that he might be able to hear the word of God from thee; and thereupon convey him to a place where he can feel secure:
If Muslims are to behave with such clemency and magnanimity vis-a-vis the infidel during times of war and conflict, how much more should be expected of their interactions with non-Muslims during times of peace?

2. Respect his freedom of choice to be a "Disbeliever" - as this is a right bestowed upon humanity by God:
Quran 18:29 proclaims, "The truth is from your Lord": it is the free will of any person to believe (in God) or to be an Infidel (Un believer).

3. Even if a Muslim should be convinced that someone is a non-believer, still he must accept that his fate is in the hands of God alone, since no one human can condemn another - this must be left to the judgment of God.
Quran 88:25-26 for behold, unto (ONLY) Us (means God) will be their return, Then it will be for (ONLY) Us to Judge (humans).
22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean an ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things. "
http://www.islamforpeace.org/quran.html#point1

Hope that adds to your education, Pepper.
This site indicates the Quran verses suggesting vi... (show quote)


I guess they don't walk the talk!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2658751/Red-Cross-34-die-militant-attack-Kenya-town.html
http://dailysignal.com/2013/09/24/obama-at-united-nations-the-world-is-safer-or-it-isnt/

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