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Jun 6, 2014 14:21:58   #
mcmm Loc: Kansas
 
I have the Digital Photo Professional software that came with my Canon T3i. I often use it to check settings, etc. of photos I have taken. I have some photos from a year ago that show a 5 for sharpness but I've noticed in the past year that most of my photos have a 4 for sharpness. I've tried using different lenses, different settings. tripod and handheld but still am not seeing the 5 sharpness that I used to get on some of my photographs.
Not all of my photos were a sharpness of 5 but some were. Most are 4's but was wondering if I should be concerned? Would love for them to be 5's but don't know what I am doing wrong. I appreciate any help you could give me. I want to be as good as all of you at taking awesome photographs so I know I am in the right place for help! Thank you in advance for you help and knowledge.

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Jun 6, 2014 14:43:10   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
mcmm wrote:
I have the Digital Photo Professional software that came with my Canon T3i. I often use it to check settings, etc. of photos I have taken. I have some photos from a year ago that show a 5 for sharpness but I've noticed in the past year that most of my photos have a 4 for sharpness. I've tried using different lenses, different settings. tripod and handheld but still am not seeing the 5 sharpness that I used to get on some of my photographs.
Not all of my photos were a sharpness of 5 but some were. Most are 4's but was wondering if I should be concerned? Would love for them to be 5's but don't know what I am doing wrong. I appreciate any help you could give me. I want to be as good as all of you at taking awesome photographs so I know I am in the right place for help! Thank you in advance for you help and knowledge.
I have the Digital Photo Professional software tha... (show quote)

I'm not a Canon user, so I can't help you there, but the first thing that came to mind was that perhaps your eyesight has changed? Have you had it checked lately?

Also, does your Canon have a diopter setting? If it does, you might want to revisit it, because if it's off, things that look clear and sharp in your viewfinder might be just a tad off during exposure.

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Jun 6, 2014 14:45:26   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
What does a "5 for sharpness" mean?

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Jun 6, 2014 15:02:56   #
philz Loc: Rockaway Township NJ
 
There is a setting for sharpness applied to your images (as well as other variables) in your menu. The scale is 1-5, I believe. Check it out as that may be what DPP is reporting.

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Jun 6, 2014 15:07:50   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Starting on page 66 of the updated manual, have you changed the Picture Style?

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Jun 6, 2014 15:09:44   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
mcmm wrote:
I have the Digital Photo Professional software that came with my Canon T3i. I often use it to check settings, etc. of photos I have taken. I have some photos from a year ago that show a 5 for sharpness but I've noticed in the past year that most of my photos have a 4 for sharpness. I've tried using different lenses, different settings. tripod and handheld but still am not seeing the 5 sharpness that I used to get on some of my photographs.
Not all of my photos were a sharpness of 5 but some were. Most are 4's but was wondering if I should be concerned? Would love for them to be 5's but don't know what I am doing wrong. I appreciate any help you could give me. I want to be as good as all of you at taking awesome photographs so I know I am in the right place for help! Thank you in advance for you help and knowledge.
I have the Digital Photo Professional software tha... (show quote)


How do the photos look? If they look perfectly sharp to you and/or others forget what the number is.

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Jun 6, 2014 15:46:37   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
mcmm wrote:
I have the Digital Photo Professional software that came with my Canon T3i. I often use it to check settings, etc. of photos I have taken. I have some photos from a year ago that show a 5 for sharpness but I've noticed in the past year that most of my photos have a 4 for sharpness. I've tried using different lenses, different settings. tripod and handheld but still am not seeing the 5 sharpness that I used to get on some of my photographs.
Not all of my photos were a sharpness of 5 but some were. Most are 4's but was wondering if I should be concerned? Would love for them to be 5's but don't know what I am doing wrong. I appreciate any help you could give me. I want to be as good as all of you at taking awesome photographs so I know I am in the right place for help! Thank you in advance for you help and knowledge.
I have the Digital Photo Professional software tha... (show quote)


most post processing software automatically applies or reads the sharpness setting set by your camera. or if shooting in raw creates a sharpened jpeg for you to see. Check your camera to see if you have altered the sharpness option from 5 to 4 or as someone else has mentioned if you are using scene selection it will change camera settings as well as exposure settings. even going from A to M will change some camera settings.

I recently followed a thread regarding the sharpness and noise levels between raw and Jpeg on my sony......my camera actually produces a better jpeg than the basic raw file because it auto suppresses noise and adds sharpening at high ISO. The amount differes between ISO levels so even a small change may throw out a different number in DPP

My Canon is an older 450D so I have less knowlege of more modern canons. will probably move forward using Sony.

George

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Jun 6, 2014 16:14:12   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
St3v3M wrote:
Starting on page 66 of the updated manual, have you changed the Picture Style?
The PDF version of the camera instruction manual is located here: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t3i_18_55mm_is_ii_lens_kit#BrochuresAndManuals

I've found sharpness in the 3 to 4 range looks great, at least for my tastes with EOS models XTi / 7D / 5DIII.

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Jun 6, 2014 22:04:36   #
mcmm Loc: Kansas
 
Mystery solved! I forgot there was even a place to change sharpness. It had been changed to a 4. It gives you a choice from 1-7 so I bumped it back up to 5 and then tried 7 and you were right. The DPP showed whatever number I had changed it to.
So I guess the next question is what number should I set it on?

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Jun 6, 2014 22:05:26   #
mcmm Loc: Kansas
 
You actually gave me the answer I wanted to hear. The pictures are sharp but I didn't know if I had a problem or not so thought I would ask all of you.

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Jun 6, 2014 22:07:19   #
mcmm Loc: Kansas
 
St3v3M wrote:
Starting on page 66 of the updated manual, have you changed the Picture Style?


Thanks for the help. I had changed the Picture Style. I moved it and then took more pictures to see what would happen and I did get a 5 in the DPP software.

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Jun 7, 2014 00:09:10   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
mcmm wrote:
Thanks for the help. I had changed the Picture Style. I moved it and then took more pictures to see what would happen and I did get a 5 in the DPP software.

Cool

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Jun 7, 2014 00:35:16   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
mcmm wrote:
Mystery solved! I forgot there was even a place to change sharpness. It had been changed to a 4. It gives you a choice from 1-7 so I bumped it back up to 5 and then tried 7 and you were right. The DPP showed whatever number I had changed it to.
So I guess the next question is what number should I set it on?


Once again, Hogs to the rescue!!

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Jun 7, 2014 07:24:11   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
I think you have the answers you were looking for but.....just so you are not left with the wrong impression.
Your software is not doing an evaluation of the sharpness of your image. It is not giving you it's opinion.
It's displaying the level of sharpness (an adjustment) that has been applied by either your camera (based on settings you can make) or...the level of sharpness that you have applied using the software. Whichever came last.
You can and should set the sharpness to whatever looks best (without creating artifacts.)

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Jun 7, 2014 08:28:11   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
mcmm wrote:
So I guess the next question is what number should I set it on?


There is no set rule. It can change from camera to camera. This is the amount of sharpness applied to the photo in the photo style you are shooting in for jpg's only, it does not effect raw photos in any way. As you noted you can set it anywhere from 1 to 7 depending on what you like. It can, and will, vary from one style to another. You will have to play with it to see what you like on your camera, then leave it there. Remember everyone's taste is a little different so what Joe or Bill uses might not work for you.

Once you find what you like set it and forget about it.

Jim D

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