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May 22, 2014 13:49:24   #
fazekas Loc: Nj
 
I want to try mirrorless with a budget of $1,200. Came down to the Olympus
Omd 5, panny gx7 or sony a6000. Appreciate any advice for general photo shooting mostly outdoors landscape and some close indoor party shoots.

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May 22, 2014 14:12:55   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Look at the Refurbished site. plug in Summer into the code box and get 20% off.

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/outlet/reconditioned-cameras/e-m1-black-body-reconditioned.html

EM1 is $832

Then troll the used market for lenses...
http://www.mu-43.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17

As for lenses, I recommend any of the ones in my signature box (the m4/3 ones that is).

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May 22, 2014 14:16:13   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Al great cameras - but for your budget I am a little more partial to the Sony A3000 ($319 at Walmart)- comes with 18-55 - but I recommend the Sigma 19mm F2.8 and the Sigma 60mm 2.8 to go with it.

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May 22, 2014 14:40:08   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
fazekas wrote:
I want to try mirrorless with a budget of $1,200. Came down to the Olympus
Omd 5, panny gx7 or sony a6000. Appreciate any advice for general photo shooting mostly outdoors landscape and some close indoor party shoots.


I can only tell you about what I think about what I have, though I don't pretend that it is the best for everyone else. I have the Olympus Em5 and EM1, and both serve me quite well. The EM1 is a high-end camera with all kinds of buttons to use in a myriad of ways to make the camera perform to your liking. The EM5 is a tiny powerhouse that feels great in your hands and delivers outstanding results. I shoot mostly landscape, grandchildren, and architecture. I seldom use flash so I like the fast primes for indoor shooting.

A budget like that could secure you a refurb EM5 and a pocketful of nice lenses (perhaps the 14-42, the 40-150, and the 45 1.8 prime?)

You'll get lots of feedback. My advice is to listen mostly to what people say about the gear they own and use regularly, not so much to what people tell you about how bad other peoples' gear is.

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May 22, 2014 15:25:19   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
fazekas wrote:
I want to try mirrorless with a budget of $1,200. Came down to the Olympus
Omd 5, panny gx7 or sony a6000. Appreciate any advice for general photo shooting mostly outdoors landscape and some close indoor party shoots.


Your budget excludes the Olympus and Panasonic when considering the lens. You need good lenses for MFT cameras and most are slow and have average image quality.

Insisting on your budget, the Sony is your best bet since it leaves the most $ for a lens and also has the largest sensor. The down side is the lenses will be larger and more expensive.

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May 22, 2014 15:31:28   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
joer wrote:
Your budget excludes the Olympus and Panasonic when considering the lens. You need good lenses for MFT cameras and most are slow and have average image quality.

Insisting on your budget, the Sony is your best bet since it leaves the most $ for a lens and also has the largest sensor. The down side is the lenses will be larger and more expensive.


If bought new, I agree, however, there are some great used lenses for less than $300-350. You just need to be patient and be ready to pounce on them.

7.5mm FE 3.5, 17mm f1.8, 20mm f1.7, 45mm 1.8, Sigma 30, 60mm, and if you are patient enough a Panasonic 25mm f1.4

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May 22, 2014 15:38:43   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Refurb EM5 with 14-42 + 7.5 + 45 + extra battery + Gordy wrist strap comes in at just under $1200 I could probably squeeze in the 12-50 instead of the 14-42 if I look harder.

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May 22, 2014 20:03:11   #
rebride
 
Hard Call !!
The Fuji XE2 with 16-55 should be down to $1200.00 Monday.
Don't believe what you hear about slow and average.
They are all just Marvelous, darling.

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May 22, 2014 23:12:11   #
fazekas Loc: Nj
 
Thanks for the info

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May 23, 2014 06:47:46   #
newtimes Loc: Indiana
 
The sony 6000 is great, sigma have great lenses and you can find used/open box on Amazon, as well buying an adapters for other makes of lenses.

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May 23, 2014 06:58:00   #
Jackdoor Loc: Huddersfield, Yorkshire.
 
minniev wrote:
I can only tell you about what I think about what I have, though I don't pretend that it is the best for everyone else. I have the Olympus Em5 and EM1, and both serve me quite well. The EM1 is a high-end camera with all kinds of buttons to use in a myriad of ways to make the camera perform to your liking. The EM5 is a tiny powerhouse that feels great in your hands and delivers outstanding results. I shoot mostly landscape, grandchildren, and architecture. I seldom use flash so I like the fast primes for indoor shooting.

A budget like that could secure you a refurb EM5 and a pocketful of nice lenses (perhaps the 14-42, the 40-150, and the 45 1.8 prime?)

You'll get lots of feedback. My advice is to listen mostly to what people say about the gear they own and use regularly, not so much to what people tell you about how bad other peoples' gear is.
I can only tell you about what I think about what ... (show quote)


I also love my EM-5. Good value now. The kit 12-50 is OK, with good macro, or EM-5 body plus 14-42 IIR may be a bit sharper, and possibly cheaper. As the budget allows, and depending on what focal length you need, I'm well pleased with the Olympus 45mm f1.8, & Panasonic's 14mm and 100-300 telezooms. There sounds to be a bit of a gap 50-100mm, but I never notice it!

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May 23, 2014 07:05:59   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
I really like the Fuji X-E2. If you buy Olympus also buy their extended warranty which will give you an additional 2 years of service and you get a check-up and cleaning. It only cost $99
fazekas wrote:
I want to try mirrorless with a budget of $1,200. Came down to the Olympus
Omd 5, panny gx7 or sony a6000. Appreciate any advice for general photo shooting mostly outdoors landscape and some close indoor party shoots.

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May 23, 2014 07:34:29   #
SueMac Loc: Box Elder, SD
 
I'm picking up my Sony A6000 today so I'll report on it after I've had some time to test it out.

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May 23, 2014 08:16:16   #
stephena Loc: Carmel, Indiana
 
I second the entry on the Fuji X-e2 plus the kit lens. A couple of things in its favor. 1) the logic of settings does not boggle the mind. 2). The x-e2 has outstanding color rendition which Fuji, also a producer of film is known for. 3) If you want to continue to build a system, Fuji has a complete lens package, something the others don't. 4) The kit lens (18-55) is extremely sharp and has received rave reviews from Pros as well as amateurs, and it is the type of lens you can put on the camera and leave it there for all-around shooting. 5) The electronic view finder (EVF) is very good, but has one drawback: you will need a 3X ND filter with the kit lens for bright sun light shooting because it stops down so it is hard to see. Can use the rear lcd which is very good. I have been using this camera for about a year, have purchased additional lenses, and find this is a great carry-arround-all-the time camera. Finally, there is a very good instruction book out on the X-e2 which can be found on Amazon. . . .Steve

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May 23, 2014 08:36:59   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
Creativelive had a quick start on the X-E1 & X-E2. I thought he was very good (John Greengo?)
stephena wrote:
I second the entry on the Fuji X-e2 plus the kit lens. A couple of things in its favor. 1) the logic of settings does not boggle the mind. 2). The x-e2 has outstanding color rendition which Fuji, also a producer of film is known for. 3) If you want to continue to build a system, Fuji has a complete lens package, something the others don't. 4) The kit lens (18-55) is extremely sharp and has received rave reviews from Pros as well as amateurs, and it is the type of lens you can put on the camera and leave it there for all-around shooting. 5) The electronic view finder (EVF) is very good, but has one drawback: you will need a 3X ND filter with the kit lens for bright sun light shooting because it stops down so it is hard to see. Can use the rear lcd which is very good. I have been using this camera for about a year, have purchased additional lenses, and find this is a great carry-arround-all-the time camera. Finally, there is a very good instruction book out on the X-e2 which can be found on Amazon. . . .Steve
I second the entry on the Fuji X-e2 plus the kit l... (show quote)


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