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May 21, 2014 17:52:02   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
This was taken in the evening and I changed it to Black and white.

St Michaels Mount
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May 21, 2014 22:43:22   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
I really like the dramatic clouds in this image, but I think it is all a little too dark. The island and the building on the top get lost in the image. I wonder if it wouldn't be better in color so that you can more easily see the sun shining on the island.
I can't figure out a better crop, but I am not sure this is the best one either. I would hate to lose any of the clouds, but I so want to see more detail in the island and building.

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May 22, 2014 05:27:27   #
rlaugh Loc: Michigan & Florida
 
I like this shot Val..maybe a little lighter but not much,also think the B&W makes it more dramatic beings the island is so far away,color wouldn't have helped the island much! This crop lets us use our imagination as to exactly whats on the island,which is good somtimes...I like it!!

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May 22, 2014 06:51:58   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
nanaval wrote:
This was taken in the evening and I changed it to Black and white.

A very nice capture of the clouds and, at normal viewing distance, the image is sharp enough. The darkness is appropriate for the time of day. It is well that you did not over-expose any more than you did since you retained the cloud shapes well.

Your lens would have performed better at a smaller aperture, maybe f/8 or f/11. A smaller aperture would have sharpened the shoreline and the distant details. Of course, this would have lengthened you exposure to around four or eight seconds and made any movement in the water blur into a smoother sheet, but you might find that pleasing. Of course, the clouds are also moving, but at this time of the day that should not be much.

I don't think you can crop this image without reducing the impact of the clouds.

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May 22, 2014 07:58:22   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
nanaval wrote:
This was taken in the evening and I changed it to Black and white.


Great coastal shot nanaval, great clouds and the subject is a classic too.
Its an OK b&w conversion without setting the world on fire.
The composition is a little weak by playing largely by the rules.
A crop can fix this though if inclined.
I would like to see a much smaller, virtually nonexistant foreground to strengthen both the "Mount" and the clouds.

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May 22, 2014 18:46:31   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Country's Mama wrote:
I really like the dramatic clouds in this image, but I think it is all a little too dark. The island and the building on the top get lost in the image. I wonder if it wouldn't be better in color so that you can more easily see the sun shining on the island.
I can't figure out a better crop, but I am not sure this is the best one either. I would hate to lose any of the clouds, but I so want to see more detail in the island and building.


Hi Country's Mama,Thank you for looking and giving me your Opinion on picture. I have not cropped it and as I was trying out my Lee big stopper the picture had a blue cast on it . I removed it with the white point and converted it to B/W as the clouds were a bit too light And I tried to make them the focal point rather then the Mount. Landscape is not one of my better subjects to take but it was a club outing so I gave it a go. I will post a picture of the castle on the mount for critique.In 350 bc the Mount was a key port in shipping tin to the rest or Europe.It was bought in 1610 by the St Aubyn family who lived in the castle till 1984 when Lord and Lady St Leven lived there till Lord St Leven retired to the mainland in 2003. James Lord St Leven now livers there. The family name changed 1887. The Mount was gifted to the National Trust in 1954 but the family were still able to live there. When the causeway is covered by the tide a boat is used to ferry people over. A lot of the workers live on the Mount in houses at the front. There is a great deal of history connected with the Mount and is among the top 10 photographed places in the Uk.

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May 22, 2014 18:54:41   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
rlaugh wrote:
I like this shot Val..maybe a little lighter but not much,also think the B&W makes it more dramatic beings the island is so far away,color wouldn't have helped the island much! This crop lets us use our imagination as to exactly whats on the island,which is good somtimes...I like it!!


Hi Bob I am glad you like it, I tried to make the clouds the focal point as I thought they were interesting. It had a blue cast due to the Lee big stopper I used(just getting used to it) and the clouds were a bit light. It is not cropped just a white point put in and a B/w filter. I agree it looks a bit dark but I was trying for a stormy look. Feel free to have a go with it yourself if you like and that goes for anyone else also. Thanks my friend for taking the time to look and critique.

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May 22, 2014 19:06:55   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
selmslie wrote:
A very nice capture of the clouds and, at normal viewing distance, the image is sharp enough. The darkness is appropriate for the time of day. It is well that you did not over-expose any more than you did since you retained the cloud shapes well.

Your lens would have performed better at a smaller aperture, maybe f/8 or f/11. A smaller aperture would have sharpened the shoreline and the distant details. Of course, this would have lengthened you exposure to around four or eight seconds and made any movement in the water blur into a smoother sheet, but you might find that pleasing. Of course, the clouds are also moving, but at this time of the day that should not be much.

I don't think you can crop this image without reducing the impact of the clouds.
A very nice capture of the clouds and, at normal v... (show quote)


Hi selmslie Thank you for looking I used lens 18-250, 2 sec, F5.6, iso 200.I used bulb mode in M. I will go back and try using the f stops you suggest and see how I get on. There was a fair breeze blowing in from the sea. Thank you for looking and the critique. Glad you like the clouds.

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May 22, 2014 19:12:30   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
lighthouse wrote:
Great coastal shot nanaval, great clouds and the subject is a classic too.
Its an OK b&w conversion without setting the world on fire.
The composition is a little weak by playing largely by the rules.
A crop can fix this though if inclined.
I would like to see a much smaller, virtually nonexistant foreground to strengthen both the "Mount" and the clouds.


Hi lighthouse Thank you for looking and your critique. I am glad you like the basic shot and you are welcome to have a play with it. I will look forwards to seeing the results.

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May 22, 2014 19:32:08   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
nanaval wrote:
This was taken in the evening and I changed it to Black and white.


I'm struck by the paucity of tonal range. Contrast is lacking...and seriously needed. I strongly suspect that evening colors could have provided more imact than this narrow tonal range could ever do. With evening colors and a bit more contrast, it might survive without cropping.

impact: 3
tech: 2
comp: 3
8/15

Dave in SD

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May 26, 2014 09:04:25   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Uuglypher wrote:
I'm struck by the paucity of tonal range. Contrast is lacking...and seriously needed. I strongly suspect that evening colors could have provided more imact than this narrow tonal range could ever do. With evening colors and a bit more contrast, it might survive without cropping.

impact: 3
tech: 2
comp: 3
8/15

Dave in SD


Hi Uglypher Thaks for looking and giving your critique on the picture, I have changed the picture by giving it more contrast. It does make it look different. Am I allowed to post it on this thread again?

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May 26, 2014 09:45:42   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
nanaval wrote:
Hi Uglypher Thaks for looking and giving your critique on the picture, I have changed the picture by giving it more contrast. It does make it look different. Am I allowed to post it on this thread again?


Not on this thread, but feel free to start another and link to it.

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May 26, 2014 10:07:43   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Country's Mama wrote:
Not on this thread, but feel free to start another and link to it.


How do I link it please?

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May 26, 2014 10:08:44   #
Nightski
 
Just start the new thread, copy the link, past it here and say what the link is for. :-)

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