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May 14, 2014 10:26:23   #
rolf Loc: Kenora Ont.Canada
 
Raven comes to humans for help.


This is a fascinating, short video of the interplay between a farm family who decide to help a Raven which has landed on their farm fence and has several porcupine quills stuck into the side of his head. The video was shot by one of the children of the family involved. The fact that the Raven continues to stay there, despite his obvious pain and discomfort while the woman strokes his breast and pulls out the quills, suggests the Raven has reasoned that she is trying to help him. It definitely begs the question, did the Raven reason it out in advance that he needed human help and came to them for assistance? Ravens are known for their intelligence and their ability to reason things out so, in this particular case, that possibility is fascinating! In any event, it is an amazing and fascinating video to watch.

http://www.wimp.com/ravenhelp/

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May 14, 2014 10:38:36   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
Very good. Glad someone trusts us. I wonder if it just flew away after or what. Thanks again for the link.

Sarge69

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May 14, 2014 10:48:10   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
rolf wrote:
Raven comes to humans for help.


This is a fascinating, short video of the interplay between a farm family who decide to help a Raven which has landed on their farm fence and has several porcupine quills stuck into the side of his head. The video was shot by one of the children of the family involved. The fact that the Raven continues to stay there, despite his obvious pain and discomfort while the woman strokes his breast and pulls out the quills, suggests the Raven has reasoned that she is trying to help him. It definitely begs the question, did the Raven reason it out in advance that he needed human help and came to them for assistance? Ravens are known for their intelligence and their ability to reason things out so, in this particular case, that possibility is fascinating! In any event, it is an amazing and fascinating video to watch.

http://www.wimp.com/ravenhelp/
Raven comes to humans for help. br br br This is... (show quote)


I suspect that the raven did reason it out ahead of time.
Maybe it's been around farms for a while and has seen human(s) de-quill a dog or some other animal (or maybe a human?) on a prior occasion.
I don't know how we'd ever prove it, though.

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May 14, 2014 10:48:35   #
donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
 
And the Raven sayest afterward:

"NEVERMORE" shall I attack a porcupine"

"NEVERMORE" !!!

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May 14, 2014 10:57:40   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
I find Ravens amazing and very interesting. One of my co-workers, who's now 50 is freaked out about them. Of course I sent this video to him... LOL. Thanks for posting it. I thought it was great. Cheers.

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May 15, 2014 05:25:06   #
DougW Loc: SoCal
 
rocketride wrote:
I suspect that the raven did reason it out ahead of time.
Maybe it's been around farms for a while and has seen human(s) de-quill a dog or some other animal (or maybe a human?) on a prior occasion.
I don't know how we'd ever prove it, though.


Maybe this wasn't the first time he needed to be de-quilted ?

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May 15, 2014 05:46:44   #
GARGLEBLASTER Loc: Spain
 
Ravens belong to the corvid family that are the most intelligent of birds

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May 15, 2014 09:10:04   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
GARGLEBLASTER wrote:
Ravens belong to the corvid family that are the most intelligent of birds


AFAIK, the corvids and the psittacines are about neck-and-neck, brains-wise. The ravens and crows are ahead on problem-solving and mechanical aptitude, while the parrots seem to actually know what they're saying, at least some of the time. I.e, using human vocalizations in context at appropriate times.

The amazing thing is how much mental capacity they all shoehorn into such small brains. Makes me think our big mammalian brains are somehow slacking. Neural featherbedding?

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May 15, 2014 09:24:43   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
donrent wrote:
And the Raven sayest afterward:

"NEVERMORE" shall I attack a porcupine"

"NEVERMORE" !!!


Hahahahahahahaha

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May 15, 2014 10:25:57   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Amazing video.

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May 15, 2014 11:43:33   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
This cat outdoes the human and raven.

Hope I get a cat like that.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/family-cat-saves-boy-dog-attack-23718134

Sarge69

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May 15, 2014 12:28:49   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
rolf wrote:
Raven comes to humans for help.


This is a fascinating, short video of the interplay between a farm family who decide to help a Raven which has landed on their farm fence and has several porcupine quills stuck into the side of his head. The video was shot by one of the children of the family involved. The fact that the Raven continues to stay there, despite his obvious pain and discomfort while the woman strokes his breast and pulls out the quills, suggests the Raven has reasoned that she is trying to help him. It definitely begs the question, did the Raven reason it out in advance that he needed human help and came to them for assistance? Ravens are known for their intelligence and their ability to reason things out so, in this particular case, that possibility is fascinating! In any event, it is an amazing and fascinating video to watch.

http://www.wimp.com/ravenhelp/
Raven comes to humans for help. br br br This is... (show quote)


There is no question that the raven understood that he was being helped. Porcupine quills have backward-facing barbs that makes them easy to penetrate, but very hard (and painful) to pull out. I know how painful because one of my dogs went through that and I pulled the few quills with pliers. The raven knew that each coming pull would hurt a great deal, but stayed rather than moving away. Very unique video!

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May 15, 2014 22:52:28   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
I have raised Cockatiels and my Daughter has raised African Gray's... and they both are very smart, learn to speak very quickly and seem to use what they have learned in an intelligent way..

My wife would go to work each morning, go to the bird room and say "I've gotta go to work, bye, see you later" it was just a short while that the bird learned that phrase, but only said it in the Morning when she was going to work.

The African Gray was amazing.... without being taught, just by listening to what was going on around him....
"Ring, Ring, Hello, yea this is Kieth, uh huh..........uh huh. K, bye. sound of phone being hung up....

We would be sitting in the den and the "New" baby would start crying,,, get up go to crib in next room and HUMMMMM no baby crying... Then from the next (Bird) Room the baby would start crying again... PERFECT Mimic...

Mike

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May 16, 2014 00:00:13   #
NormPR
 
sarge69 wrote:
This cat outdoes the human and raven.

Hope I get a cat like that.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/family-cat-saves-boy-dog-attack-23718134

Sarge69


Just saw that cat video before opening UHH. Both videos are truly amazing. Some people say they have no reasonable brains, well these prove them wrong.

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May 16, 2014 00:00:49   #
NormPR
 
sarge69 wrote:
This cat outdoes the human and raven.

Hope I get a cat like that.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/family-cat-saves-boy-dog-attack-23718134

Sarge69


Just saw that cat video before opening UHH. Both videos are truly amazing. Some people say they have no reasonable brains, well these videos prove them wrong.

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