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Jan 13, 2012 10:55:07   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
GDRoth wrote:
Yes, docrob; That's another thought...........You should have spent an hour there taking a hundred shots (bracketed and single) and seeing how the light played out........How often will the average person come back around to that same spot again?


Too bad my wife doesn't share the same attitude. LOL

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Jan 13, 2012 10:59:55   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
GDRoth wrote:
Yes, docrob; That's another thought...........You should have spent an hour there taking a hundred shots (bracketed and single) and seeing how the light played out........How often will the average person come back around to that same spot again?


Actually i wouldn't have taken hundreds of shots - I never do - I work smarter than that and I trust my vision and my experience way more than to think if I couldn't get what I felt was right then and there that shooting a zillion pics would change that. And maybe an hour wouldn't have been enough - maybe if the scene struck me as that good I would have planned to return (pros do that you know) and your right the average person probably wouldn't do that.....I would though....guess not for you?

And lastly, it is about attitude. Mine is to be slow down and watch, let the subject show me the way to capture it, get a feel for the scene and ask myself how to best communicate that. I take that same attitude when I post....yours seems to be speed up and hurry, fix it down the road with whatever and be done with it. That same attitude shows in this post to me too - you didn't bother much to really hear what I was suggesting - you just saw it and me as ridiculous, slammed me with sarcasm and went on........

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Jan 13, 2012 11:00:50   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
greymule wrote:
GDRoth wrote:
Yes, docrob; That's another thought...........You should have spent an hour there taking a hundred shots (bracketed and single) and seeing how the light played out........How often will the average person come back around to that same spot again?


Too bad my wife doesn't share the same attitude. LOL


silly - never take the wife on a photo shoot

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Jan 13, 2012 11:03:07   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
docrob wrote:
greymule wrote:
GDRoth wrote:
Yes, docrob; That's another thought...........You should have spent an hour there taking a hundred shots (bracketed and single) and seeing how the light played out........How often will the average person come back around to that same spot again?


Too bad my wife doesn't share the same attitude. LOL


silly - never take the wife on a photo shoot


I'll tell her she'll have to stay at home for our next vacation.

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Jan 13, 2012 11:07:29   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
greymule wrote:
docrob wrote:
greymule wrote:
GDRoth wrote:
Yes, docrob; That's another thought...........You should have spent an hour there taking a hundred shots (bracketed and single) and seeing how the light played out........How often will the average person come back around to that same spot again?


Too bad my wife doesn't share the same attitude. LOL


silly - never take the wife on a photo shoot


I'll tell her she'll have to stay at home for our next vacation.
quote=docrob quote=greymule quote=GDRoth Yes, d... (show quote)



Been married 31 yrs been photographing 35 years - surely you can figure out a way that you can go photograph and she can do what she likes? It isn't that hard - just a little communication will do.

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Jan 13, 2012 11:13:31   #
Turbo Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
greymule wrote:
I know the sky is blown, as are some of the trees. Too great a range in the photo. Any thoughts on whether a graduated density filter would have helped.

I bought one, but haven't used it much.


The image is showing how dark the scene was. So it is never "too dark". If you want to please the viewer and make the pic more palatable for the casual viewer, then you can brighten it a bit. As far as the dynamic range, yes a ND filter would tone the contrast down a bit and show details of the sky.

If you shoot in RAW mode, you can probably use PhotoShop and play with "shadows / Highlights" to reveal details you will never see in a JPEG picture.

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Jan 13, 2012 11:17:49   #
GDRoth Loc: Southeast Michigan USA
 
docrob, I didn't mean to come off like that....I wasn't slamming anyone. If I took a hundred shots I would end up with 4 or 5 keepers in the end........Since I live in Michigan and the shots were taken in Colorado I assume I'd never get back there........I'm not a professional and probably can't return the next day....

Sorry for the miscue...

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Jan 13, 2012 12:30:07   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
GDRoth wrote:
docrob, I didn't mean to come off like that....I wasn't slamming anyone. If I took a hundred shots I would end up with 4 or 5 keepers in the end........Since I live in Michigan and the shots were taken in Colorado I assume I'd never get back there........I'm not a professional and probably can't return the next day....

Sorry for the miscue...


thank you.....i am not a professional either but I would take the time for any scene and if it happened to be in Michigan and I couldnt go back then I would try to expose my heart.....if not a silicon chip.


again, thank you for that

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Jan 13, 2012 17:25:42   #
RobGilchrist Loc: Thompson Falls, MT, USA
 
greymule wrote:
I know the sky is blown, as are some of the trees. Too great a range in the photo. Any thoughts on whether a graduated density filter would have helped.

I bought one, but haven't used it much.


With apologies for messing with your shot, how about this solution?



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Jan 13, 2012 17:52:14   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
RobGilchrist wrote:
greymule wrote:
I know the sky is blown, as are some of the trees. Too great a range in the photo. Any thoughts on whether a graduated density filter would have helped.

I bought one, but haven't used it much.


With apologies for messing with your shot, how about this solution?


Looks much better with the crop, than the blown sky. I promise myself to be hyper-aware of too much dynamic range and either omit the offending part or HDR it.

Thanks everyone for the help!

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Jan 13, 2012 18:40:31   #
skylocke Loc: Toledo, Washington
 
greymule wrote:
I know the sky is blown, as are some of the trees. Too great a range in the photo. Any thoughts on whether a graduated density filter would have helped.

I bought one, but haven't used it much.


How about something like this???



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Jan 13, 2012 20:59:06   #
greymule Loc: Colorado
 
skylocke wrote:
greymule wrote:
I know the sky is blown, as are some of the trees. Too great a range in the photo. Any thoughts on whether a graduated density filter would have helped.

I bought one, but haven't used it much.


How about something like this???


Wow!

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Jan 14, 2012 00:26:25   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
greymule wrote:
I know the sky is blown, as are some of the trees. Too great a range in the photo. Any thoughts on whether a graduated density filter would have helped.

I bought one, but haven't used it much.

You probably would have been better off bracketing your exposures and merging them (HDR or a similar process of blending layers). It's been suggested that you could have shot without the sky, which would have given you better exposure in the dark areas, but would also have changed the composition. Even so, there's a lot of tone and color to work with. I don't know what the lighting really looked like, but here's another version.



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