Subway Bows its Head, Knuckles Under to Islamic Demands
May 3, 2014 15:49:13 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
Subway removes ham and bacon from nearly 200 stores and offers halal meat only after 'strong demand' from Muslims
185 branches across UK and Ireland now sell halal-only meat
Halal refers to objects or actions permissible under Islamic law
Pork is forbidden and while other meat can be eaten, it must be sourced, slaughtered and processed according to strict rules
Subway said all halal meat served in its branches has come from animals that were stunned before being slaughtered
Halal-only menu is in response to 'strong demand' from Muslim customers
By SEAN POULTER
PUBLISHED: 04:12 EST, 30 April 2014 | UPDATED: 19:18 EST, 30 April 2014
Fast food giant Subway has removed ham and bacon from almost 200 outlets, and switched to halal meat alternatives in an attempt to please its Muslim customers.
It has confirmed turkey ham and turkey rashers will be used instead in 185 of its stores, where all the meat will now be prepared according to halal rules.
The chain, which has around 1,500 outlets across the UK, explained its decision by saying it had to balance animal welfare concerns with 'the views of religious communities'.
Nearly 200 Subway branches across the UK and Ireland have cut out ham and bacon, selling only halal meat, in response to demand from their multicultural customers
Nearly 200 Subway branches across the UK and Ireland have cut out ham and bacon, selling only halal meat, in response to demand from their multicultural customers
Traditional halal slaughter sees animals have their throats slit before bleeding to death. But Subway stressed that the meat served in its sandwiches would come from animals that have been stunned first, a practice that aims to reduce any suffering.
In Arabic the word halal means 'permitted' or 'lawful' and defines anything that is allowed or lawful according to the Qur'an.
It is often used to indicate food - particularly meat - has been prepared in accordance with Muslim principles and techniques.
Muslims are forbidden from eating any non-halal food and meat from pigs and Subway said customers can identify those stores selling halal food by the special 'All meats are Halal' sign, which must be displayed in participating branches.
In the halal-only branches ham and bacon has been substituted for turkey ham and rashers.
Many animal charities condemn halal slaughter as being brutish and cruel to animals.
Traditionally in halal abattoirs the throats of the animals are cut while they are fully conscious - an act many campaigners say is inhumane and needlessly cruel.
In the halal-only stores ham and bacon have been substituted for turkey ham and turkey rashers, the sandwich chain said. A spokeswoman said all halal meat served in Subway branches has come from animals that were stunned before being slaughtered
In the halal-only stores ham and bacon have been substituted for turkey ham and turkey rashers, the sandwich chain said. A spokeswoman said all halal meat served in Subway branches has come from animals that were stunned before being slaughtered
In non-halal abattoirs, livestock are stunned before killing to prevent any unnecessary suffering.
Some halal butchers also practise pre-stunning, though it is not permitted by some Islamic scholars.
In Britain, killing an animal without prior stunning is illegal, but the law gives special exemption to Muslim and Jewish meat producers on the grounds of religion.
There are thought to be around 12 abattoirs dedicated to unstunned slaughter in the UK, while hundreds practise stunned halal slaughter.
A Subway spokeswoman told MailOnline all halal meat served in the participating branches is from animals who were stunned prior to slaughter.
She said: 'The growing popularity of the Subway chain with the diverse multicultural population across the UK and Ireland means we have to balance the values of many religious communities with the overall aim of improving the health and welfare standards of animals.
'We put a programme into place in 2007 to ensure that the population demographic is taken into account when new store openings are considered in order that we meet consumer demand in each location.
SUBWAY SUBS AFFECTED BY RULES
Subs
Chicken and Bacon Ranch Melt
Steak and Cheese
Meatball Marinara
Subway Melt - ham, bacon, turkey breast and cheese
Italian B.M.T. - pepperoni, salami and ham
Spicy Italian - pepperoni and salami
Chicken Avocado
Breakfast subs
Bacon
Mega Melt - bacon, sausage, egg and cheese
Sausage
Bacon, Egg and Cheese
Sausage, Egg and Cheese
All ham and bacon is replaced by turkey ham and turkey rashers and all meat is prepared according to Islamic halal rules.
'All our suppliers comply with EU animal welfare legislation as a minimum and we require suppliers of halal products to adopt the stunning of animals prior to their slaughter.
'All halal meats are certified by the appropriate halal authorities.
'All halal Subway stores have numerous signs stating that they serve halal food.
'These are situated on the menu panels, nutritional information and in the front window of the store.'
Animal campaigning charity PETA urged people to opt for a vegetarian diet to ensure they have the best interests of animals at heart.
A spokesman said: 'At the best of times, meat is a product of a bloody and violent industry with no respect for other living beings who value their lives in the same way that we do and experience the same pain and terror that Subways' customers would if they were killed for a sandwich.
'Most religions, including Islam, preach kindness to animals, but words are one thing and practice another.
'As the Dalai Lama said, "My religion is kindness". And a diet that expresses kindness, is open to all religions and truly respects animal rights is a vegan one.
'Subway-goers, no matter what their religion, can eat with a clear conscience by opting for the veggie patty, the veggie delight or, heaven forbid, a salad.'
Speaking about the general issue of halal slaughter, an RSPCA spokeswoman added: 'Scientific research has clearly shown that slaughter of an animal without stunning can cause unnecessary suffering, and the RSPCA is opposed to the slaughter of any animal without first making it insensible to pain and distress.
'At present, the only legal exemptions to stunning during slaughter exist for kosher and halal methods of slaughter, however, it is important to differentiate between religious and non-stun slaughter as around 90 per cent of all halal in the UK receives a stun before slaughter.
'Our concern has nothing to do with the expression of religious belief but with the practice of killing by throat cutting without pre-stunning.
'We believe that meat produced from animals stunned or not stunned before slaughter should be clearly labelled to allow consumer choice, and continue to press for changes in the law that would improve the welfare of all farm animals at the time of slaughter.'
HALAL DICTATES OBJECTS OR ACTIONS PERMISSIBLE UNDER ISLAMIC LAW
Halal refers to any object or action which is permissible according to Islamic law. The term covers not only food and drink but also matters of daily life.
Halal foods are those that Muslims are allowed to eat or drink under Islamic Shari'ah. The criteria dictates both food which are allowed and how the food must be prepared. The foods most commonly addressed are types of meat and animal tissue.
The most common example of non-halal, or forbidden food is pork. It is the only meat that must not be eaten by Muslims at all, due to historical, cultural and religiously perceived hygienic concerns.
Muslims are forbidden under Islamic law from eating any pork products, any other meat must be sourced, killed and processed according to strict rules
Other meats can be forbidden, depending on their source, the cause of the animal's death and how it was processed.
To be halal, the food must have come from a supplier that uses halal practises. Specifically the slaughter must be performed by a Muslim, who must invoke the name of Allah prior to killing the animal. Commonly a person will say 'Bismillah' ('In the name of God') before repeating 'Allahu akbar' ('God is the greatest') three times.
The animal is then slaughtered with a sharp knife, by cutting the throat, windpipe and blood vessels in the neck without cutting the spinal cord. The blood must then be drained from the veins of the animal.
Traditionally and according to Islamic scholars an animal must be conscious while slaughtered.
However the majority of halal abattoirs stun the animals before killing them.
Muslims must also ensure that all foods, particularly processed foods, as well as non-food items like cosmetics and pharmaceuticals, are halal.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616576/Subway-removes-ham-pork-nearly-200-stores-strong-demand-Muslims-eat-Halal-meat.html#ixzz30gSUhJTW
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185 branches across UK and Ireland now sell halal-only meat
Halal refers to objects or actions permissible under Islamic law
Pork is forbidden and while other meat can be eaten, it must be sourced, slaughtered and processed according to strict rules
Subway said all halal meat served in its branches has come from animals that were stunned before being slaughtered
Halal-only menu is in response to 'strong demand' from Muslim customers
By SEAN POULTER
PUBLISHED: 04:12 EST, 30 April 2014 | UPDATED: 19:18 EST, 30 April 2014
Fast food giant Subway has removed ham and bacon from almost 200 outlets, and switched to halal meat alternatives in an attempt to please its Muslim customers.
It has confirmed turkey ham and turkey rashers will be used instead in 185 of its stores, where all the meat will now be prepared according to halal rules.
The chain, which has around 1,500 outlets across the UK, explained its decision by saying it had to balance animal welfare concerns with 'the views of religious communities'.
Nearly 200 Subway branches across the UK and Ireland have cut out ham and bacon, selling only halal meat, in response to demand from their multicultural customers
Nearly 200 Subway branches across the UK and Ireland have cut out ham and bacon, selling only halal meat, in response to demand from their multicultural customers
Traditional halal slaughter sees animals have their throats slit before bleeding to death. But Subway stressed that the meat served in its sandwiches would come from animals that have been stunned first, a practice that aims to reduce any suffering.
In Arabic the word halal means 'permitted' or 'lawful' and defines anything that is allowed or lawful according to the Qur'an.
It is often used to indicate food - particularly meat - has been prepared in accordance with Muslim principles and techniques.
Muslims are forbidden from eating any non-halal food and meat from pigs and Subway said customers can identify those stores selling halal food by the special 'All meats are Halal' sign, which must be displayed in participating branches.
In the halal-only branches ham and bacon has been substituted for turkey ham and rashers.
Many animal charities condemn halal slaughter as being brutish and cruel to animals.
Traditionally in halal abattoirs the throats of the animals are cut while they are fully conscious - an act many campaigners say is inhumane and needlessly cruel.
In the halal-only stores ham and bacon have been substituted for turkey ham and turkey rashers, the sandwich chain said. A spokeswoman said all halal meat served in Subway branches has come from animals that were stunned before being slaughtered
In the halal-only stores ham and bacon have been substituted for turkey ham and turkey rashers, the sandwich chain said. A spokeswoman said all halal meat served in Subway branches has come from animals that were stunned before being slaughtered
In non-halal abattoirs, livestock are stunned before killing to prevent any unnecessary suffering.
Some halal butchers also practise pre-stunning, though it is not permitted by some Islamic scholars.
In Britain, killing an animal without prior stunning is illegal, but the law gives special exemption to Muslim and Jewish meat producers on the grounds of religion.
There are thought to be around 12 abattoirs dedicated to unstunned slaughter in the UK, while hundreds practise stunned halal slaughter.
A Subway spokeswoman told MailOnline all halal meat served in the participating branches is from animals who were stunned prior to slaughter.
She said: 'The growing popularity of the Subway chain with the diverse multicultural population across the UK and Ireland means we have to balance the values of many religious communities with the overall aim of improving the health and welfare standards of animals.
'We put a programme into place in 2007 to ensure that the population demographic is taken into account when new store openings are considered in order that we meet consumer demand in each location.
SUBWAY SUBS AFFECTED BY RULES
Subs
Chicken and Bacon Ranch Melt
Steak and Cheese
Meatball Marinara
Subway Melt - ham, bacon, turkey breast and cheese
Italian B.M.T. - pepperoni, salami and ham
Spicy Italian - pepperoni and salami
Chicken Avocado
Breakfast subs
Bacon
Mega Melt - bacon, sausage, egg and cheese
Sausage
Bacon, Egg and Cheese
Sausage, Egg and Cheese
All ham and bacon is replaced by turkey ham and turkey rashers and all meat is prepared according to Islamic halal rules.
'All our suppliers comply with EU animal welfare legislation as a minimum and we require suppliers of halal products to adopt the stunning of animals prior to their slaughter.
'All halal meats are certified by the appropriate halal authorities.
'All halal Subway stores have numerous signs stating that they serve halal food.
'These are situated on the menu panels, nutritional information and in the front window of the store.'
Animal campaigning charity PETA urged people to opt for a vegetarian diet to ensure they have the best interests of animals at heart.
A spokesman said: 'At the best of times, meat is a product of a bloody and violent industry with no respect for other living beings who value their lives in the same way that we do and experience the same pain and terror that Subways' customers would if they were killed for a sandwich.
'Most religions, including Islam, preach kindness to animals, but words are one thing and practice another.
'As the Dalai Lama said, "My religion is kindness". And a diet that expresses kindness, is open to all religions and truly respects animal rights is a vegan one.
'Subway-goers, no matter what their religion, can eat with a clear conscience by opting for the veggie patty, the veggie delight or, heaven forbid, a salad.'
Speaking about the general issue of halal slaughter, an RSPCA spokeswoman added: 'Scientific research has clearly shown that slaughter of an animal without stunning can cause unnecessary suffering, and the RSPCA is opposed to the slaughter of any animal without first making it insensible to pain and distress.
'At present, the only legal exemptions to stunning during slaughter exist for kosher and halal methods of slaughter, however, it is important to differentiate between religious and non-stun slaughter as around 90 per cent of all halal in the UK receives a stun before slaughter.
'Our concern has nothing to do with the expression of religious belief but with the practice of killing by throat cutting without pre-stunning.
'We believe that meat produced from animals stunned or not stunned before slaughter should be clearly labelled to allow consumer choice, and continue to press for changes in the law that would improve the welfare of all farm animals at the time of slaughter.'
HALAL DICTATES OBJECTS OR ACTIONS PERMISSIBLE UNDER ISLAMIC LAW
Halal refers to any object or action which is permissible according to Islamic law. The term covers not only food and drink but also matters of daily life.
Halal foods are those that Muslims are allowed to eat or drink under Islamic Shari'ah. The criteria dictates both food which are allowed and how the food must be prepared. The foods most commonly addressed are types of meat and animal tissue.
The most common example of non-halal, or forbidden food is pork. It is the only meat that must not be eaten by Muslims at all, due to historical, cultural and religiously perceived hygienic concerns.
Muslims are forbidden under Islamic law from eating any pork products, any other meat must be sourced, killed and processed according to strict rules
Other meats can be forbidden, depending on their source, the cause of the animal's death and how it was processed.
To be halal, the food must have come from a supplier that uses halal practises. Specifically the slaughter must be performed by a Muslim, who must invoke the name of Allah prior to killing the animal. Commonly a person will say 'Bismillah' ('In the name of God') before repeating 'Allahu akbar' ('God is the greatest') three times.
The animal is then slaughtered with a sharp knife, by cutting the throat, windpipe and blood vessels in the neck without cutting the spinal cord. The blood must then be drained from the veins of the animal.
Traditionally and according to Islamic scholars an animal must be conscious while slaughtered.
However the majority of halal abattoirs stun the animals before killing them.
Muslims must also ensure that all foods, particularly processed foods, as well as non-food items like cosmetics and pharmaceuticals, are halal.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616576/Subway-removes-ham-pork-nearly-200-stores-strong-demand-Muslims-eat-Halal-meat.html#ixzz30gSUhJTW
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May 3, 2014 15:51:23 #
ramapo
Loc: New Jersey
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Subway removes ham and bacon from nearly 200 store... (show quote)
Imagine that, a commercial enterprise catering to a specific group of customers. That is truly horrible.
May 3, 2014 16:13:56 #
May 3, 2014 16:56:09 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
big d wrote:
Kentucky Fried Chicken did the same a few years ago !
Stopped serving pig products?
Promised all chicken is halal-slaughtered?
Interesting. Can you give details or a link?
Trivia: Years ago I met Col. Sanders. Spoke with him very briefly. My understanding is that he traveled around the country doing public appearances. He was traveling in a huge white Cadillac with a driver, and he was dressed in the famous spotless all-white outfit.
May 3, 2014 17:29:52 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Stopped serving pig products?
Promised all chicken is halal-slaughtered?
Interesting. Can you give details or a link?
Trivia: Years ago I met Col. Sanders. Spoke with him very briefly. My understanding is that he traveled around the country doing public appearances. He was traveling in a huge white Cadillac with a driver, and he was dressed in the famous spotless all-white outfit.
Promised all chicken is halal-slaughtered?
Interesting. Can you give details or a link?
Trivia: Years ago I met Col. Sanders. Spoke with him very briefly. My understanding is that he traveled around the country doing public appearances. He was traveling in a huge white Cadillac with a driver, and he was dressed in the famous spotless all-white outfit.
I had the pleasure of meeting Col. Sanders in GA in 1971. Quite the character, very much enjoyed the experience.
May 4, 2014 03:25:17 #
May 4, 2014 05:10:23 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
No link ! But perhaps Lancashire Evening Telegraph archives England as people demonstrated outside Blackburn branch for weeks .Stopped serving pig products?
Promised all chicken is halal-slaughtered?
Interesting. Can you give details or a link?
Trivia: Years ago I met Col. Sanders. Spoke with him very briefly. My understanding is that he traveled around the country doing public appearances. He was traveling in a huge white Cadillac with a driver, and he was dressed in the famous spotless all-white outfit.
Promised all chicken is halal-slaughtered?
Interesting. Can you give details or a link?
Trivia: Years ago I met Col. Sanders. Spoke with him very briefly. My understanding is that he traveled around the country doing public appearances. He was traveling in a huge white Cadillac with a driver, and he was dressed in the famous spotless all-white outfit.
May 4, 2014 05:30:02 #
ramapo wrote:
Imagine that, a commercial enterprise catering to a specific group of customers. That is truly horrible.
I think you have missed the point, my friend. The issue here is not that Subway's muslim customers' wishes were being met, but that their non-muslim customers could no longer get what they wanted.
May 4, 2014 06:56:31 #
jimward wrote:
I think you have missed the point, my friend. The issue here is not that Subway's muslim customers' wishes were being met, but that their non-muslim customers could no longer get what they wanted.
And that is the problem. Every enterprise seems to be knuckling under to this group of radical thinkers and to hell with what the majority wants..
May 4, 2014 07:17:08 #
May 4, 2014 07:23:07 #
rayford2
Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
ramapo wrote:
Imagine that, a commercial enterprise catering to a specific group of customers. That is truly horrible.
Apparently there are more Muslims than true British in GB.
May 4, 2014 07:37:36 #
I thought the whole point in Halal food was that the animals are NOT stunned. Sikhs won't eat Halal meat because they consider it cruel.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603360/Horror-halal-slaughterhouse-Shocking-undercover-film-shows-needless-suffering-livestock-butchered-without-stunned-first.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603360/Horror-halal-slaughterhouse-Shocking-undercover-film-shows-needless-suffering-livestock-butchered-without-stunned-first.html
May 4, 2014 08:09:17 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
Sure they can! Just not in stores located in primarily muslim neighborhoods! Those same folks cannot get pork products in Jewish delis!
Much ado about nothing in this story
Much ado about nothing in this story
jimward wrote:
I think you have missed the point, my friend. The issue here is not that Subway's muslim customers' wishes were being met, but that their non-muslim customers could no longer get what they wanted.
May 4, 2014 08:22:01 #
If you don't like your meat humanely slaughtered, then don't go there.
May 4, 2014 08:23:04 #
rayford2 wrote:
Apparently there are more Muslims than true British in GB.
Not the case. What you're seeing in the UK - and what you have in the USA - is a crazy system of political correctness where the minority always wins. You would be better off learning from the UK experience than condoning it, because you're next. (Thought: If you are a muslim, I apologise for offending you).
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