Nikons Superiority (Page 2): I agree completely. If it is done right the first time, there should be no reason for that. Maybe they need to monitor their technicians...

crimesc324 Loc: West Palm Beach, Florida

Accelerator wrote:

I know how to clean a sensor have the equipment an... (show quote)

I agree completely. If it is done right the first time, there should be no reason for that. Maybe they need to monitor their technicians

Bobbee

Accelerator wrote:

Oh Well ! Looks to me like Nikon's Superiority is ... (show quote)

should have broght the 800.

Bobbee

Accelerator wrote:

As per contract my guys just came in and replaced the roof on your house 3 weeks ago. It just rained and the roof leaked messing up an interior wall and causing your hardwood floor to buckle. You tell your neighbor about it and he says, just throw a tarp over it and clean up the mess yourself. Leave that poor contractor alone. What are you going to do ?

not even close

Accelerator

crimesc324 wrote:

I agree completely. If it is done right the first time, there should be no reason for that. Maybe they need to monitor their technicians

That is a thought. :thumbup:

Accelerator

Bobbee wrote:

not even close

Replying once agreeing twice. :thumbup: :thumbup:

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

Accelerator wrote:

Thanks ! Phone will be ringing at 9:02 AM

Why Wait ...Start dialing at 5 of.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Accelerator wrote:

Oh Well ! Looks to me like Nikon's Superiority is ... (show quote)

If you change lenses, and you are not careful to keep your rear lens cap and rear element surgically clean, you will get dust on the sensor.

The problem with the D600 that caused Nikon to issue a service advisory was caused by a manufacturing process and some materials that were being deposited on the sensor. This is not the same as simple dust on the sensor, which is absolutely common to anyone that uses a camera with interchangeable lenses.

Learn how to clean your sensor, or become comfortable with a little dust. Also keep your gear clean, and avoid changing lenses in the field. That will significantly reduce your frustration level. However, if you still think that this is an issue which requires Nikon's intervention, go right ahead. I will tell you, that they will not replace a defective component with the same thing. Nikon has been inundated with service requests for this problem, so they would not deliberately do something like that.

photon56 Loc: North America

Accelerator wrote:

As per contract my guys just came in and replaced the roof on your house 3 weeks ago. It just rained and the roof leaked messing up an interior wall and causing your hardwood floor to buckle. You tell your neighbor about it and he says, just throw a tarp over it and clean up the mess yourself. Leave that poor contractor alone. What are you going to do ?

I would swab it. If the spots never came back, then you're done. If they do, then go through this hassle. It's probably lubrication that is splattering. Bad design maybe. Or don't and get a new camera.

Joecosentino Loc: Whitesboro, New York

I had my 5th D600! Replaced with a D610 in December. After sending back all 5 600's

The ones who say learn how to clean the sensor don't understand what 600 owners with bad shutters are dealing with. It's one thing to clean a few dust specks but my 600's would have hundreds of spots on the photo. Some visible down to f5.6

I would ask for a replacement I have 2 610's right now no issues with either one

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Joecosentino wrote:

I had my 5th D600! Replaced with a D610 in December. After sending back all 5 600's

The ones who say learn how to clean the sensor don't understand what 600 owners with bad shutters are dealing with. It's one thing to clean a few dust specks but my 600's would have hundreds of spots on the photo. Some visible down to f5.6

I would ask for a replacement I have 2 610's right now no issues with either one

The reason I made the distinction between common dust and the problem reported with the D600 due to a material choice is that common dust is easy to rectify, and a common sensor cleaner will fix that. However the problem the D600, which prompted Nikon to first create the 610, and ultimately issue a service advisory, is a lubrication related issue, and difficult to clean without the solvent-based cleaners used at service centers. Nikon issued their advisory in February. Up until then they were simply cleaning the sensors and putting them back in the field. Those who have endured the multiple sensor cleaning and managed to put a large number of clicks on their shutter realize that the problem has largely gone away. The shutters eventually stop shedding dust and lube. In any case, anyone who still has a dust problem with cameras serviced under the advisory in all likelihood have a common dust problem, and Nikon is not likely to replace a camera that just needs routine cleaning. The tell tale is if you can use an aqueous cleaning solution to remove the dust. If you can't then the issue is Nikon's. If you can, then you just saved yourself shipping and time without your camera while it is at Nikon.

Another thought. If you have your camera changed, and you still have dust problems - the problem is not anything Nikon is doing wrong.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

CHOLLY wrote:

^^^Once it is out of warranty, sure.

But until that day comes, the manufacturer needs to make good on it's promise. :x

Expiration of warranty does not apply. Nikon will take care of the D600 as long as it has problems. That might be a good reason to buy a used one. Of course, that might apply only to the sensor spots.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

jerryc41 wrote:

Expiration of warranty does not apply. Nikon will take care of the D600 as long as it has problems. That might be a good reason to buy a used one. Of course, that might apply only to the sensor spots.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Accelerator wrote:

Does anyone know of any contacts for the class action suits that are going on?

If there are any class action suits, the lawyers will find you.

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

Racmanaz wrote:

Nikon will fix it or replace it even if it is out of the warranty period. Call them and give them another try, maybe they will exchange it for a D610 model.

http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Service-And-Support/Service-Advisories/hs309y82/Technical-Service-Advisory-for-Users-of-the-Nikon-D600-Digital-SLR-Camera.html

1-800-645-6687), 9AM8PM EST, Monday to Friday

Certainly call again. sometimes Nikon tries to do the least first rather than go all out on a repair. Not all of the D600's have the problem and sometimes, it isn't oil but really is dust and user caused rather than manufacturing error. If you get it back, shoot about 250 shots on continuous, if the problem is going to happen again, that will cause it. Hang in there, the camera or the D610 are both good.. and Nikon will come through in the long run. They just don't want to change out every single D600 shutter box in the world if they can help it.

Nikonhermit Loc: In This Place

Accelerator wrote:

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The Nikon D600 appears to be irreparable. As recently as March 17, there was this article on Nikon Rumors documenting the headaches that Nikon is having with the camera on the Chinese market:

http://nikonrumors.com/2014/03/17/nikon-d600-spot-issue-all-over-the-news-again-after-chinese-tv-report.aspx/

At the end of the article you will find several more links about the same problem.