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Apr 21, 2014 09:03:41   #
Richie Ziccardi
 
Hi,Have you tried using a external flash,that should really help or fix the problem.if you just want to use the light that is available you will always have to correct it because the color temperature from different light sources.

Best of luck
Popz

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Apr 21, 2014 09:10:54   #
gviprasath Loc: INDIA
 
jcret wrote:
I use with a Nikon D3000 camera, shoot raw and I am satisfied with the results I get with the exception of having some problems with white balance. I understand that all fluorescent lights and that all incandescent lights are not the same color temperature. I usually set my white balance on the camera to match the lighting, but do not always get the same results. Therefore I use auto white balance when shooting indoors with mixed lighting and still get less than desirable results. The orange faces I am seeing are driving me nuts and sometimes editing with PS Elements 12 doesn’t give me the results I would like.
Two questions:
1. Any suggestions on getting more consistent results setting white balance using the D3000?
2. Would I have more WB options with a D7100 and would it perform better than the entry level D3000?
I appreciate any help that I can get.
I use with a Nikon D3000 camera, shoot raw and I a... (show quote)


ok.No problem.In which picture control you shoot your pictures.Because most picture controls can be adjusted to our taste.You can adjust the sharpness, contrast, brightness, saturation & Hue. Try adjusting the said adjustments & you can have your required output.

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Apr 21, 2014 09:16:27   #
lsimpkins Loc: SE Pennsylvania
 
jcret wrote:

1. Any suggestions on getting more consistent results setting white balance using the D3000?


You've had lots of useful suggestions, but I might add my own. Get a neutral density card, or like I have, lens cleaning cloth. Shoot a shot with the card or cloth held next to the subject's face. Then in PP, this card will permit WB adjustment for the lighting at the subject's face. For instance in LR, you can use the WB selector (eyedropper). Just click the selector on the card or cloth and LR will get you something that is at least acceptable. As others noted, mixed lighting is the pits.

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Apr 21, 2014 09:34:49   #
Giugly01 Loc: Woodstock, NY
 
Complicated solution: Open in ACR, just hit Done and go to PS. Copy Background layer. Go to Filter>Camer RAW Filter. That will open the file back in ACR. Pick one particular part of the image and fix the white balance. IMPORTANT! While fixing that one part completely DISREGARD any other part of the image. When fixed hit OK to return to PS. Go back to Background Layer and to Filter>Camera RAW Filter, and fix the next part. When each individually lighted area is balanced separately on separate layers begin blending with layer masks. Shwew! When done you can flatten your work and go back to Camera RAW Filter in ACR to begin the process of working on the image's other needs.

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Apr 21, 2014 10:28:05   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
[quote=jcret]In photoshop elements did you try "correct skin color"? I find this feature helpful. David

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Apr 21, 2014 10:46:54   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Giugly01 wrote:
Complicated solution: Open in ACR, just hit Done and go to PS. Copy Background layer. Go to Filter>Camer RAW Filter. That will open the file back in ACR. Pick one particular part of the image and fix the white balance. IMPORTANT! While fixing that one part completely DISREGARD any other part of the image. When fixed hit OK to return to PS. Go back to Background Layer and to Filter>Camera RAW Filter, and fix the next part. When each individually lighted area is balanced separately on separate layers begin blending with layer masks. Shwew! When done you can flatten your work and go back to Camera RAW Filter in ACR to begin the process of working on the image's other needs.
Complicated solution: Open in ACR, just hit Done ... (show quote)


Easier. Use the "open as" camera raw in the file menu, or open in Photoshop as a smart object. Or just shoot raw, use Lightroom, and call it a day

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Apr 21, 2014 10:50:34   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Treat it like 'Stage Lighting', if you are working with very mixed colour temperature lighting.

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Apr 21, 2014 10:54:13   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Very good point. Sometimes, correct isn't right.


I liked that thought also.

By shooting in RAW and using Lightroom you can fiddle to your heart's content. The RaW image doesn't care what you set on the camera.

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Apr 21, 2014 10:54:19   #
James Shaw
 
twindad wrote:
Break out the wallet and buy an Expodisc.




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Apr 21, 2014 10:57:43   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Giugly01 wrote:
Complicated solution: Open in ACR, just hit Done and go to PS. Copy Background layer. Go to Filter>Camer RAW Filter. That will open the file back in ACR. Pick one particular part of the image and fix the white balance. IMPORTANT! While fixing that one part completely DISREGARD any other part of the image. When fixed hit OK to return to PS. Go back to Background Layer and to Filter>Camera RAW Filter, and fix the next part. When each individually lighted area is balanced separately on separate layers begin blending with layer masks. Shwew! When done you can flatten your work and go back to Camera RAW Filter in ACR to begin the process of working on the image's other needs.
Complicated solution: Open in ACR, just hit Done ... (show quote)


Doesn't the camera RAW filter only exist in the cloud version of Photoshop?

I know I can "open as" in CS6, or in Elements, but I find locating the file to do that an extra step.

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Apr 21, 2014 11:17:55   #
Giugly01 Loc: Woodstock, NY
 
MtnMan wrote:
Doesn't the camera RAW filter only exist in the cloud version of Photoshop?

I know I can "open as" in CS6, or in Elements, but I find locating the file to do that an extra step.


I think you are right. Sorry. But, the ability to open in ACR after having the file in PS is an option as far back as CS4 because I had done it without "saving" and reopening. I forget how to do it before CC. Try changing the layer to a Smart Layer/Object and double clicking on the layer icon. Otherwise, do a google search thread on it. By using layer masks to combine adjustments in ACR you can do a ton of power stuff. HDR type light balancing, etc.

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Apr 21, 2014 11:25:36   #
Giugly01 Loc: Woodstock, NY
 
MtnMan wrote:
Doesn't the camera RAW filter only exist in the cloud version of Photoshop?

I know I can "open as" in CS6, or in Elements, but I find locating the file to do that an extra step.


try: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2676799#forum-post-33340727

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Apr 21, 2014 12:41:31   #
paccmps
 
[quote=jcrI use with a Nikon D3000 camera, shoot raw and I am satisfied with the results I get with the exception of having some problems with white balance. I understand that all fluorescent lights and that all incandescent lights are not the same color temperature. I usually set my white balance on the camera to match the lighting, but do not always get the same results. Therefore I use auto white balance when shooting indoors with mixed lighting and still get less than desirable results. The orange faces I am seeing are driving me nuts and sometimes editing with PS Elements 12 doesn’t give me the results I would like.
Two questions:
1. Any suggestions on getting more consistent results setting white balance using the D3000?
2. Would I have more WB options with a D7100 and would it perform better than the entry level D3000?
I appreciate any help that I can get.[/quote]

Not sure about Nikon equipment but I shoot everything in auto wb with my Canon. I process using Photoshop and do auto color, auto contrast and auto tone and it comes out fine. Some fine tuning might be required but it is relatively simple and easy !

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Apr 21, 2014 14:36:08   #
smith934 Loc: Huntsville, Alabama
 
Danilo wrote:
This kind of goes to the extreme, but the professional way of dealing with mixed lighting is to balance them with colored gels. If using 3200K incandescent lighting with daylight coming in from a window, a orange/yellow gel will cover the window, matching it to the incandescent lighting. For us "small time guys" it's better just to avoid these things unless we're dealing with a critical shot.
What colour gel would one use to balance fill flash with bright sunlight coming through a window? This was yesterday just shooting 'snapshots' at home with my D7100. The sunlight was actually greenish from bouncing off the tree just outside the window.

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Apr 21, 2014 15:30:28   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
jcret wrote:
I use with a Nikon D3000 camera, shoot raw and I am satisfied with the results I get with the exception of having some problems with white balance. I understand that all fluorescent lights and that all incandescent lights are not the same color temperature. I usually set my white balance on the camera to match the lighting, but do not always get the same results. Therefore I use auto white balance when shooting indoors with mixed lighting and still get less than desirable results. The orange faces I am seeing are driving me nuts and sometimes editing with PS Elements 12 doesn’t give me the results I would like.
Two questions:
1. Any suggestions on getting more consistent results setting white balance using the D3000?
2. Would I have more WB options with a D7100 and would it perform better than the entry level D3000?
I appreciate any help that I can get.
I use with a Nikon D3000 camera, shoot raw and I a... (show quote)


Continue shooting in RAW, but be mindful of the fact that RAW captures what the camera sees. It is not manipulated. So, setting white balance at the camera level is pretty much ignored by RAW.

Do your white balance in post. There are a variety of ways to do that from letting the program do it to adjusting the black, white, and gray levels yourself, which puts you in more control over the final result.
--Bob

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