need information on mounting camera in aircraft
Apr 4, 2014 22:25:11 #
This is my first post and new to this forum We want to mount a canon 1dx camera and 200 mm lens on a mounting bracket in the back seat of a Cardinal high wing aircraft to document surveillance activities. It would view out the pilots rear window ( with window removed) viewing down at about a 45% angle. It would be viewed from a remote monitor by the pilot and the pilot would make adjustments to keep the camera in the right area.
The aircraft rear seat will be removed and a aluminum bracket will be hard mounted to support a stabilizer( 3 axis ?) and camera. We need some technical information on how to accomplish this and we also have a machine shop that will build what would be needed. The camera and lens weigh about 8 lbs. We may need to switch to a 100mm for weight.
The aircraft rear seat will be removed and a aluminum bracket will be hard mounted to support a stabilizer( 3 axis ?) and camera. We need some technical information on how to accomplish this and we also have a machine shop that will build what would be needed. The camera and lens weigh about 8 lbs. We may need to switch to a 100mm for weight.
Apr 4, 2014 22:32:54 #
Anna M-W
Loc: New York City
I would consider mounting two cameras so you can get context for the 200 mm shot so you have close up and wide view set the cameras so they fire at the same time.
Thought not my field i think you have to consider vibration an issue.
please post pictures of the rig when its done under same subject line.
Anna M-W
Thought not my field i think you have to consider vibration an issue.
please post pictures of the rig when its done under same subject line.
Anna M-W
Apr 4, 2014 22:52:41 #
Apr 4, 2014 23:02:51 #
Anna M-W
Loc: New York City
dirtpusher wrote:
gopro. have mounted on outside with suction cup mount.
The FIA would not approve of that .If it comes off it could do a lot damage to your aircraft and any thing else it hits (you don't want to kill anyone in particular not your self
200mm + body is a lot of mass X 33 ft per second per second =a lot
Apr 4, 2014 23:07:35 #
Anna M-W wrote:
The FIA would not approve of that .If it comes off it could do a lot damage to your aircraft and any thing else it hits (you don't want to kill anyone in particular not your self
200mm + body is a lot of mass X 33 ft per second per second =a lot
200mm + body is a lot of mass X 33 ft per second per second =a lot
never had a problem 180 knts. with safety wire.. could mount it inside.
Apr 4, 2014 23:12:01 #
edemoss wrote:
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You will need to mount the camera in such a manner as to minimize vibration. The only way I can imagine that will be completely effective is with a gyroscopic mount. You might get away with high shutter speeds, but remember, the vibration is constant (unless you want to shut off the engine and shoot with a dead-stick).
Apr 4, 2014 23:15:24 #
Anna M-W
Loc: New York City
dirtpusher wrote:
never had a problem 180 knts. with safety wire.. could mount it inside.
Iside fine outside go pro and a heavy camera not wild on the idea. but i am usually over cautious.
Apr 4, 2014 23:25:23 #
Anna M-W wrote:
Iside fine outside go pro and a heavy camera not wild on the idea. but i am usually over cautious.
we covered about 70 miles. on rudder. on lancair.
Apr 4, 2014 23:30:22 #
Anna M-W
Loc: New York City
dirtpusher wrote:
we covered about 70 miles. on rudder. on lancair.
I think you know more about aircraft than I do .
By the way I love your signature lines
Anna M-W
Apr 4, 2014 23:37:44 #
Anna M-W wrote:
I think you know more about aircraft than I do .
By the way I love your signature lines
Anna M-W
By the way I love your signature lines
Anna M-W
had to do a go around come back after a 3 geese strike on first try.. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt4_8QrKRD0
Apr 5, 2014 01:19:24 #
Ouch. Gotta love that GoPro...
About 15 years ago I caught one of those honkers with the left wing strut on a 182 at about 8000 feet. Pinched a button hole in the seat for sure...
About 15 years ago I caught one of those honkers with the left wing strut on a 182 at about 8000 feet. Pinched a button hole in the seat for sure...
Apr 5, 2014 10:41:49 #
2 cameras is a go thought. The vibration is what we are concerned about. We considered mounting one of those 3 axis units that they use for the RC helicopter's and modify it.. On the vertical issue it was mentioned about using a vertical spring loaded post with a vertical gyro to allow it to move up and down. Again we don't know and that is why we are seeking information so we don't have to reinvent the wheel. We do need to mount it inside and be able to view out the same side as the pilot sets so he can track the object. The plane can fly very slow ( 50 knots or about 55 to 60 MPH)
I will post some photos of the aircraft .
This has to do with tracking drug activities involving a very sophisticated group. Choppers are a dead giveaway and we don't have the funds to purchase a 20,000 system.
Thanks for all the comments Ed
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I will post some photos of the aircraft .
This has to do with tracking drug activities involving a very sophisticated group. Choppers are a dead giveaway and we don't have the funds to purchase a 20,000 system.
Thanks for all the comments Ed
.
Apr 5, 2014 11:56:59 #
edemoss wrote:
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What power plant are you trying to take pictures of?
Apr 5, 2014 13:09:13 #
edemoss wrote:
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once you get your design work out you will need to check with the FAA for approval before installing in the aircraft. when you do install in the aircraft it will require a form337 to be filed with the FAA and it also has to go with the aircraft records. Locating it where you say may change the CG of the aircraft and depending on what the mount is made of and how elaborate it is, it may also change the weight and balance of the aircraft. Work with your local FAA and they can make recommendations, also get a design engineer involved, someone that is familiar with making changes to your aircraft. You also need to ensure that this change does not make your aircraft un-airworthy, this is where the FAA can be a big help. The final result is that you want an airworthy aircraft and the crews will be safe.
Apr 5, 2014 14:12:58 #
Who does your annuals on the aircraft? They can probably handle the paper chase and all the sign-offs.
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