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Feb 1, 2015 09:59:09   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
I still use and love my BR 7 strap and those who want to use something else do so. you know the old saying; Different Stroke for different folks.

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Feb 1, 2015 10:37:01   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
This thread is proof that there ARE people out there who CAN break an Anvil with a GLASS HAMMER.

I have to wonder about people who believe things found on Youboob as being Gospel.

Nikon (and probably others, I don't want to step out of my area of expertise... :roll: ) DO provide their approved attachment points for a neck strap on most cameras (again, can't say all. No expertise there either).

I'd say (WARNING: Opinion) that those neck strap attachment points weren't meant to catch a falling rock climber.
But that if one was ripped from the carcase of said manufacturers camera body, it most likely would be replaced by said manufacturer. But I could be wrong....

Tripod Attachment Point....
Not neck strap attachment point.
Not accessory attachment point.
Not hanging ballast attachment point.
Not safety harness attachment point.
Not an eyebolt attachment point.
Not trailer safety chain attachment point.
Not support for a 20 pound lens attachment point.

Tripod... attachment... point... to TEMPORARILY support and stabilize the camera.
At which point a thinking person who likes their camera would logically remove said camera and place it back to the designed transport mode of the neck strap support, to then move, relocate, reposition, or belly up to a bar.

Seems pretty simple to me.
But then... I am a simple man.
And smart enough to sift B. S. before applying it to my garden.
It doesn't take an Einstein to comprehend the term: Tripod Attachment Point. And Neck Strap Attachment PointS.
As in Plural. As in dual. As in designed. As in this way, Stupid.

BUT... NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO... you can count on those who will be smarter, usually temporarily, and say,
"Hey, Y'all watch this shit!"
And some genius will post a video of it.
And wow... it becomes Gospel!

Shear strength? On a plastic camera body? On a sheet metal camera body? Come on.

I love children. From the time they start walking they start learning that falling down can be painful. And they learn to avoid it. They learn that if they pull too hard, they can break their dollies, or trucks, or toys. And that bubbles are temporary, and balls can go flat.
Eventually, they grow up and find out nothing lasts forever.
But some just have to try hitting that anvil with a glass hammer....

I'd like to leave this discussion with this,
A Blacksmith Playing an Anvil with Hammers.

:hunf:

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Feb 1, 2015 11:01:53   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Thought I might show something gorgeous
http://thenewcamera.com/leica-t-type-701-camera-chassis-images/

http://thenewcamera.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Leica-T701-Camera-Chassis-3.jpg

Magnesium alloy chassis, not unbreakable but a bit more substantial than the plastic box with a metal plate in it shown earlier in the thread. While I would hate myself for dropping a camera like this, it probably would bounce rather than break if it fell on to concrete.

The plastic case i could see flexing walking around with it held by the tripod mount with a long heavy lens, acting as a lever, every step would be putting pressure on that plastic base. However that would be more of a problem with a tripod attached, a strap would be flexing absorbing most of the load but the camera swinging back and forth must be causing some flex in the base.

I don't know the characteristics of the plastic used. Some materials have a brittle ductile temperature above it there is a resistance to shock as the material flexes below it , it can shatter. you often see it in cables , hoses where when cold they tend to kink rather than bend. It's not unusual for an electrician to put a reel of cable in a warm room prior to laying it in order for it to be more flexible.

It's probably fair to say the more expensive your camera was new the better chassis its likely to have. The magnesium chassis will have taken longer to produce and machine than a plastic case that can be injection moulded in a couple of minutes a shot.

UV tends to degrade plastics and as they age they become more brittle, its really hard to know if the materials used will exceed the service life of the camera, they should exceed the warranty period, but beyond that you are on your own.

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Feb 1, 2015 11:58:05   #
glgracephoto Loc: Arlington, WA
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Hmmmmm....

I wonder what the tripod mount is for? Decoration?

Isn't it for... I don't know; MOUNTING YOUR CAMERA?!?! ;)

Does gravity cease to exist when the camera is mounted on the tripod? No? Well then... isn't the camera tripod mount DESIGNED to support the weight of the camera and lens?

I'm guessing here, but shouldn't you say "YES"? :lol:


I actually prefer to keep my tripod mount free, precisely so I can mount my camera to my tripod, as this is where it usually is. It was yet another reason to spend 20 bucks on a perfectly performing Op-Tech neck strap, since I carry two cameras, and only one is mounted to the tripod at any given time.

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Feb 1, 2015 12:15:43   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
blackest wrote:
Thought I might show something gorgeous
http://thenewcamera.com/leica-t-type-701-camera-chassis-images/

http://thenewcamera.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Leica-T701-Camera-Chassis-3.jpg

Magnesium alloy chassis, not unbreakable but a bit more substantial than the plastic box with a metal plate in it shown earlier in the thread. While I would hate myself for dropping a camera like this, it probably would bounce rather than break if it fell on to concrete.

The plastic case i could see flexing walking around with it held by the tripod mount with a long heavy lens, acting as a lever, every step would be putting pressure on that plastic base. However that would be more of a problem with a tripod attached, a strap would be flexing absorbing most of the load but the camera swinging back and forth must be causing some flex in the base.

I don't know the characteristics of the plastic used. Some materials have a brittle ductile temperature above it there is a resistance to shock as the material flexes below it , it can shatter. you often see it in cables , hoses where when cold they tend to kink rather than bend. It's not unusual for an electrician to put a reel of cable in a warm room prior to laying it in order for it to be more flexible.

It's probably fair to say the more expensive your camera was new the better chassis its likely to have. The magnesium chassis will have taken longer to produce and machine than a plastic case that can be injection moulded in a couple of minutes a shot.

UV tends to degrade plastics and as they age they become more brittle, its really hard to know if the materials used will exceed the service life of the camera, they should exceed the warranty period, but beyond that you are on your own.
Thought I might show something gorgeous br http://... (show quote)


That is a thing of CNC beauty!

Ever seen magnesium burn? It is extremely hard to ignite, but once ignited, it's like a nuclear meltdown.

I wonder if anybody thought about using Titanium? That is really light! And Durian tough.

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Feb 1, 2015 13:41:17   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
SonnyE wrote:
That is a thing of CNC beauty!

Ever seen magnesium burn? It is extremely hard to ignite, but once ignited, it's like a nuclear meltdown.

I wonder if anybody thought about using Titanium? That is really light! And Durian tough.


Titanium burning is pretty impressive kind of bluey white I was making a tensile test piece and slightly over cooked it on the lathe it lit up the lathe bed like the time travelling bit in back to the future.

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Feb 1, 2015 14:09:23   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
blackest wrote:
Titanium burning is pretty impressive kind of bluey white I was making a tensile test piece and slightly over cooked it on the lathe it lit up the lathe bed like the time travelling bit in back to the future.


Did not know that about Titanium. Thanks!

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Feb 1, 2015 14:09:49   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
SonnyE wrote:
That is a thing of CNC beauty!

Ever seen magnesium burn? It is extremely hard to ignite, but once ignited, it's like a nuclear meltdown.

I wonder if anybody thought about using Titanium? That is really light! And Durian tough.


Titanium is not easy to work with. In a previous life, I worked as a machinist making stair components for corporate air craft. Titanium would chew our tools like nothing else. Very slow machining times with frequent sharpening of milling bits required.

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Feb 1, 2015 15:23:48   #
Ranjan Loc: Currently Cyber-Nation!
 
Michael Hartley wrote:
ANYTHING can fail, if the right conditions are met.


Until dust settles down on this or a unanimous decision is reached, I am carrying my camera in a traditional side-bag, and will take the camera out only when I am shooting. Yes, I might experience malfunction even during the short time that I hang the camera around my neck, and yes it might fall and hit concrete (shudders!) but I shall not lose the moment and for that I will have a lighter compact, like Nikon P7800 out of its eveready case, just in case!

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Feb 2, 2015 19:00:47   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Ranjan wrote:
just in case!


Justin Case.

Reminds me of my next older Sister.
She was married to a guy named West. When she go pregnant with #2 or #3, she was talking to my Dad on the phone about names.
Dad said if it was a boy they should name him Easton.
"Easton? What on earth for, Dad???" She gasped.
Smooth as Tennessee whiskey Dad said, "Because then he could be Easton West."
East N West, get it?
I'll wait...

Well it was funny then and we still laugh about it today as senior citizens ourselves.

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Feb 3, 2015 08:35:36   #
Ranjan Loc: Currently Cyber-Nation!
 
SonnyE wrote:
Justin Case.

Reminds me of my next older Sister.
She was married to a guy named West. When she go pregnant with #2 or #3, she was talking to my Dad on the phone about names.
Dad said if it was a boy they should name him Easton.
"Easton? What on earth for, Dad???" She gasped.
Smooth as Tennessee whiskey Dad said, "Because then he could be Easton West."
East N West, get it?
I'll wait...

Well it was funny then and we still laugh about it today as senior citizens ourselves.
Justin Case. br br Reminds me of my next older Si... (show quote)


Haha! Loved your signature line!! Very fitting!!! ;-)

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May 29, 2022 14:57:18   #
bigtoxy69 Loc: Grosse Tete louisana
 
my Understanding of This. as it Pertains to Superzooms / Large Primes ect... aside From Possible Damage as Shown in the Photo ? is more of Taking Stress away from or Off of Tge Juncture of The Juncture of TgevLens mount on Both The Lens Mount and Lens itself ! which is The Secondary Function of The Lens Foot!? The First Being to Atrach said lens to A Momopod , Tripod , Gimbal ect... Secondary being the Prevent Stress Danage to The Lens mounts on Canera And Lens Instead of All tge Weight of a your Heavy lebs Hanging of Tge Canera You're flipping Script as It Were and Hanging tge Weight of The Canera off of the Lens! which is Less Stressful!!

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May 29, 2022 18:49:45   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
Bigtoxy. Congratulations on sharing your beliefs and .02 worth 8 years later. Why???

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May 29, 2022 18:55:26   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Zombie resurrection of 2014-15 thread.
Why?

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May 30, 2022 01:51:19   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Zombie resurrection of 2014-15 thread.
Why?


Why not? Is the topic no longer relevant today? I'm sure there are many UHH members who have never seen it.

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