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Which States Take the Most From the U.S. Government?
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Mar 27, 2014 14:01:01   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/03/27/which-states-take-the-most-from-the-u-s-government/

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Mar 27, 2014 14:24:19   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
What about the standard of living in those states that get the most ?.... Pay scales from one to another. Point is, you can find inequality by taking only certain data into account in any scenario... This is only but a small portion of the whole picture & by itself really doesn't mean much. Kind of like standing in a forest but only seeing the tree in front of you.

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Mar 27, 2014 14:35:14   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
What about the standard of living in those states that get the most ?.... Pay scales from one to another. Point is, you can find inequality by taking only certain data into account in any scenario... This is only but a small portion of the whole picture & by itself really doesn't mean much. Kind of like standing in a forest but only seeing the tree in front of you.


apparently you didn't understand the article, or click any the links scattered all through article..

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Mar 27, 2014 14:36:58   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I did.... Like most sources, they only take certain data into account...
dirtpusher wrote:
apparently you didn't understand the article, or click any the links scattered all through article..

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Mar 27, 2014 15:32:45   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
The bottom line is that the States that complain the most about government spending are the ones that get the most of it. The 'blue' states are subsidizing the red states. It is logical however as the red states (except UTAH) are the highest in all indexes of social discord such as alcoholism, divorce, abortions, crime, murder, wife beating along with the highest recipients of food stamps.

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Mar 27, 2014 15:36:35   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Please quote your sources as talk is cheap...
lenben wrote:
The bottom line is that the States that complain the most about government spending are the ones that get the most of it. The 'blue' states are subsidizing the red states. It is logical however as the red states (except UTAH) are the highest in all indexes of social discord such as alcoholism, divorce, abortions, crime, murder, wife beating along with the highest recipients of food stamps.

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Mar 27, 2014 15:44:57   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
lenben wrote:
The bottom line is that the States that complain the most about government spending are the ones that get the most of it. The 'blue' states are subsidizing the red states. It is logical however as the red states (except UTAH) are the highest in all indexes of social discord such as alcoholism, divorce, abortions, crime, murder, wife beating along with the highest recipients of food stamps.


have you considered where these blue and red states were directing this money.

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Mar 27, 2014 15:50:59   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
The money is directed from the Feds to the States to do what they want with it. Once the State get the cash, the Feds have little control. Most of the direction comes from acts of Congress. And guess which states have the most power in Congress right now?

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Mar 27, 2014 15:53:57   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
The "Blue" states have higher pay scales & fewer poor & thus the "Red" states are going to get more funding as they have less infrastructure to support higher paying jobs.... This is a no brainier....Bring more jobs into those poorer States & their number will change... It's not rocket science.... Figures lie & liars figure.... These stats don't tell the whole story. Yeah, taken alone they seem to indicate a trend, but they can't be taken alone, there are other mitigating factors that are not being taken into account.

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Mar 27, 2014 15:56:00   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
I am glad that you indicate that such figures need analysis. There is a tendency to see things in black and white and the actual numbers are fuzzy and nuanced.

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Mar 27, 2014 15:56:02   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
That's far from what actually happens.... There are checks & balances in play here. If a State can't account for it's spending, the money has to be returned in any number of programs....
lenben wrote:
The money is directed from the Feds to the States to do what they want with it. Once the State get the cash, the Feds have little control. Most of the direction comes from acts of Congress. And guess which states have the most power in Congress right now?

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Mar 27, 2014 16:03:10   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
how did red blue states get dragged into this.

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Mar 28, 2014 10:48:33   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Please quote your sources as talk is cheap...


Hows this for divorce rates? This took less than 10 seconds to find. All the other indicators of social misery are just as easy to fine, and if you bother to look, you find that the Red states are leading the way.
http://www.ranker.com/list/highest-u-s-divorce-rates-by-state/taylor-ratcliff

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Mar 28, 2014 10:51:51   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I did.... Like most sources, they only take certain data into account...


And here's obesity.
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/diet-fitness/photos/top-10-fat-states-where-obesity-rates-are-highest

I could go on through all the indicators, but I hope you take my point. Do some research. Its not hard.

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Mar 28, 2014 10:54:11   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
So, are you saying that the people in those "Red" States are somehow inferior?
Bazbo wrote:
Hows this for divorce rates? This took less than 10 seconds to find. All the other indicators of social misery are just as easy to fine, and if you bother to look, you find that the Red states are leading the way.
http://www.ranker.com/list/highest-u-s-divorce-rates-by-state/taylor-ratcliff

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