Raw Editing: How many do some editing in raw before saving the pics. I read some where, which I did not book mark or save about doing most of your editing in Raw which can save a lot...

Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.

How many do some editing in raw before saving the pics. I read some where, which I did not book mark or save about doing most of your editing in Raw which can save a lot latter on. I have begin take that advice and find there is several advantages. Beside the WB I am starting to use curve adjustment, noise, lens distortion and correct color hue, saturation. I find new things I can do every time I do it this way. Kelby recommends creating your black and whites this way. I would like to hear your thoughts on this subject.

Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine

As I understand it, Lightroom edits non-destructively, so you have both your original Raw and the edited version (though I save the Raw in a separate directory before exporting). I always do basic editing in Lightroom before saving as TIFF to edit in Photoshop (preferably NOT the emasculated, feeble and idiot-friendly 'Elements').

Cheers,

R.

DrDave Loc: Xcalak, Mexico

Mr Hicks,
I'm afraid that I must take issue with you when you refer to Elements as "Idiot Friendly". Many of us either cannot afford Full Blown Photoshop..or simply choose not to go there. I, luckily, am a member of the latter group. I think you owe a lot of good folks in this forum an apology. Have a nice day.

George H Loc: Brooklyn, New York

DrDave wrote:

Mr Hicks,
I'm afraid that I must take issue with you when you refer to Elements as "Idiot Friendly". Many of us either cannot afford Full Blown Photoshop..or simply choose not to go there. I, luckily, am a member of the latter group. I think you owe a lot of good folks in this forum an apology. Have a nice day.

Dave,
His reference to elements as idiot friendly is toward the program not towards those who use it. Elements is no where near as powerful as Photoshop, his choice of words may not have been good but he gives of his knowledge freely on this board.

George

DrDave Loc: Xcalak, Mexico

George,
Explanation accepted. Case closed.
Dave

Adirondack Hiker Loc: Southern Adirondacks

Roger Hicks wrote:

As I understand it, Lightroom edits non-destructively, so you have both your original Raw and the edited version (though I save the Raw in a separate directory before exporting). I always do basic editing in Lightroom before saving as TIFF to edit in Photoshop (preferably NOT the emasculated, feeble and idiot-friendly 'Elements').

Cheers,

R.

I think it is time you you to take a nappy, your attitude basically sucks.

Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine

DrDave wrote:

Mr Hicks,
I'm afraid that I must take issue with you when you refer to Elements as "Idiot Friendly". Many of us either cannot afford Full Blown Photoshop..or simply choose not to go there. I, luckily, am a member of the latter group. I think you owe a lot of good folks in this forum an apology. Have a nice day.

George said it for me: thank you George. I did not mean to insult Elements users, just Elements itself, because it omits a lot of useful features, and 'simplifies' others almost to the point of uselessness. I apologize unreservedly to anyone who read it differently.

I have both a very old Photoshop (4.0) and a reasonably current Elements (9), the latter simply for price. Sometime this year I may buy a new Photoshop, but as you say, the price is hair-raising.

Cheers,

R.

Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine

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forbescat

Those who have been reading Roger's contributions know he is a gentleman who shares his knowledge unselfishly. To use rude and crass language against him is the sign of a true boor.

DrDave Loc: Xcalak, Mexico

Yikes!!!
Since I started this..I'll attempt to finish it! Roger has stepped up..explained and apologized, and I'm happy as I can be with his response. God's in his heaven and all's right with the world!
Let's move on..
Dave

emrob62 Loc: NEPA

DrDave wrote:

Yikes!!!
Since I started this..I'll attempt to finish it! Roger has stepped up..explained and apologized, and I'm happy as I can be with his response. God's in his heaven and all's right with the world!
Let's move on..
Dave

Nice try Dave, the problem, is that some folks don't bother reading all the comments posted and will jump in with their Views and keep this going. That is possibly the one annoying thing I find on these threads, people need to know the whole account before jumping back on someones comments.

Hope all ends well

GTinSoCal Loc: Palmdale, CA

Old Timer wrote:

How many do some editing in raw before saving the ... (show quote)

Back to our original program...

I do most of my editing in ACR, no chance of blowing the original and some of the controls are better than you can achieve in PS.
Although I still do any B&W conversion in PS.

GT

BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD

Edit or not...if you do, save the image as a TIFF or a JPEG and you still have the original raw to work with again

bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY

Old Timer wrote:

How many do some editing in raw before saving the ... (show quote)

I do, in DPP, edit exposure if necessary, white bal, lens correction and sharpen. convert and save as tiff, close without saving, Bob

konica135 Loc: Ormond Beach, FL

DrDave wrote:

Mr Hicks,
I'm afraid that I must take issue with you when you refer to Elements as "Idiot Friendly". Many of us either cannot afford Full Blown Photoshop..or simply choose not to go there. I, luckily, am a member of the latter group. I think you owe a lot of good folks in this forum an apology. Have a nice day.

Dave, do the editors of the highly popular and successful "---- for Dummies" series owe all their readers an apology?