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Mar 22, 2014 12:07:06   #
jglazener Loc: Richmond, TX
 
I need input between Nikon 10-24 mm wide angle vs the Tokina 11-16mm DX II (which has a fixed f2.8). I'm mainly wanting to shoot indoor houses for real estate website and brochures...although I know I will be using it for outdoors as well. The reviews on the Tokina DX II have been very good and are very well made...even compared to the Nikkor ones.
By the way....I'm shooting with a Nikon D5100. I'm concerned about the 10-24 in low light inside homes without using flash.
Any help will be appreciated...I'm obviously not a pro at this and want to buy right the first time. I have the Nikkor kit lens 18-55 and 55-300 that came with it, but at 18 I can't get enough of the room in the pic.
Thanks,
jerry

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Mar 22, 2014 12:14:06   #
bvargas Loc: Palm Harbor, Florida
 
f2.8 Fixed makes sense.

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Mar 22, 2014 12:30:19   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
why do you think the lens is fixed at 2.8?

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Mar 22, 2014 15:06:25   #
Selkii Loc: Oakland, CA & Vancouver Island
 
Funny. Husband and I were having this discussion this morning. Just by the specs on the lenses, and what I've so far researched, the Nikon 10-24 seems more versatile. I have a Canon t4i and have been shooting real estate photos for the web for several years with my husband's T2i with a 24mm (stitch frames when necessary) and would like something wider, but am concerned with increased distortion below 18mm. When I look at MLS postings, the most popular seems to be 24mm with distinct barreling at 18.

Hope others with more experience will comment on this thread.

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Mar 22, 2014 16:07:20   #
jglazener Loc: Richmond, TX
 
oldtigger wrote:
why do you think the lens is fixed at 2.8?


My bad...I told you I was no pro ;).....I should have said ◾Aperture Range: f/2.8 to f/22...as I "think" the 2.8 would be helpful in low light w/o flash. Does that make sense?

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Mar 22, 2014 16:19:06   #
jglazener Loc: Richmond, TX
 
Selkii wrote:
Funny. Husband and I were having this discussion this morning. Just by the specs on the lenses, and what I've so far researched, the Nikon 10-24 seems more versatile. I have a Canon t4i and have been shooting real estate photos for the web for several years with my husband's T2i with a 24mm (stitch frames when necessary) and would like something wider, but am concerned with increased distortion below 18mm. When I look at MLS postings, the most popular seems to be 24mm with distinct barreling at 18.

Hope others with more experience will comment on this thread.
Funny. Husband and I were having this discussion t... (show quote)

The reviews and pics I looked at on line showed little distortion and were very sharp. I guess the key would be to shoot at the highest mm to get the view you want and just check for distortion. The Tokina Pro II is very well-made and a little heavier than the Nikon or Canon, so, it should be quite durable. As for as the short range I'm not too concerned as I have 18 on the other lens and it doesn't get the whole view. At $525 it seems to be a good one to have in the bag. I'd like to know if anyone has experience with that particular Tokina DX II lens.

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Mar 22, 2014 16:21:09   #
Sheila Loc: Arizona or New York
 
One way to see which you prefer is to rent them. I have the Tokina 11-16 which is very good lens for the uses I have but I do not do real estate. Stitching pictures together involves a bit more experience with photo processing software. I use the 11-16 for landscape, some outdoor architecture shots and garden close ups.

The Nikon lens is listed in the B&H catalog as 10-24mm f3.5-4.5 for $ 809. The Tokina is listed as 11-16 mm f 2.8 For $ 499. Possibly, you could adjust for the difference in maximum aperature by changing the ISO but I am not familiar with the best Iso range for the D5100 or perhaps you might prefer the $ 300. Other people on this site who have the Tokina also seem to like the lens but I don't remember if any mentioned real estate specifically.

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Mar 22, 2014 16:27:07   #
jglazener Loc: Richmond, TX
 
bvargas wrote:
f2.8 Fixed makes sense.


I think I mislead the forum with "fixed", Mr. Vargas....I should have said on the wide end or something...as it goes from f2.8-f22.
Sorry for the confusion....but I am new at this and still learning basics from all you pros! ;) And besides, at almost 70, I figured it was time to start a new hobby and put my old Marine Corps trigger finger to use in a different mode of operation! (not that I've given up shooting...as that may come in handy too, if things get too much worse in this country!) ;)
thanks,
jerry

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Mar 22, 2014 16:32:44   #
jglazener Loc: Richmond, TX
 
Sheila wrote:
One way to see which you prefer is to rent them. I have the Tokina 11-16 which is very good lens for the uses I have but I do not do real estate. Stitching pictures together involves a bit more experience with photo processing software. I use the 11-16 for landscape, some outdoor architecture shots and garden close ups.

The Nikon lens is listed in the B&H catalog as 10-24mm f3.5-4.5 for $ 809. The Tokina is listed as 11-16 mm f 2.8 For $ 499. Possibly, you could adjust for the difference in maximum aperature by changing the ISO but I am not familiar with the best Iso range for the D5100 or perhaps you might prefer the $ 300. Other people on this site who have the Tokina also seem to like the lens but I don't remember if any mentioned real estate specifically.
One way to see which you prefer is to rent them. ... (show quote)

Thanks for the input Sheila! The $499 is for the original 11-16mm DX (which does not have the silent focus motor)...the new model DX II is the one for the D5100 which I think B&H offers for $525 shipped.
Also, do you recommend a lens filter?...and which one?

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Mar 22, 2014 17:00:25   #
Sheila Loc: Arizona or New York
 
Wide angle lenses in this range are not used with filters. The characteristics of the lens are not compatabile with filters.

I noticed that there is a newer model after my first comment.

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Mar 22, 2014 21:19:07   #
ScottB Loc: Westlake, OH
 
As a Realtor, I use my 18-105 for almost everything I shoot. PropertyPanorama.com will automatically stitch anything that it finds that it can make into a panorama. If I want the panorama I turn the camera to portrait to capture more floor and ceiling, then let the website stitch away.

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Mar 22, 2014 21:45:30   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
jglazener wrote:
My bad...I told you I was no pro ;).....I should have said ◾Aperture Range: f/2.8 to f/22...as I "think" the 2.8 would be helpful in low light w/o flash. Does that make sense?

It does have a fixed maximum aperture: Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX-II 11-16mm f/2.8. This means that the maximum aperture is f/2.8 at all focal lengths.

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Mar 22, 2014 23:17:50   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Buying an F/2.8 lens to let in more light when you are going to use it at F/8 to F/22 for depth of field means that you are making your decision on irrelevant information.
Having said that, the Tokina is a good lens.

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Mar 23, 2014 00:59:27   #
JimGuy
 
jglazener wrote:
I need input between Nikon 10-24 mm wide angle vs the Tokina 11-16mm DX II (which has a fixed f2.8). I'm mainly wanting to shoot indoor houses for real estate website and brochures...although I know I will be using it for outdoors as well. The reviews on the Tokina DX II have been very good and are very well made...even compared to the Nikkor ones.
By the way....I'm shooting with a Nikon D5100. I'm concerned about the 10-24 in low light inside homes without using flash.
Any help will be appreciated...I'm obviously not a pro at this and want to buy right the first time. I have the Nikkor kit lens 18-55 and 55-300 that came with it, but at 18 I can't get enough of the room in the pic.
Thanks,
jerry
I need input between Nikon 10-24 mm wide angle vs ... (show quote)

Most lens's arent at their sharpest wide open so even with the f2.8 you might want to stop down a bit, and then theres the dof ...another reason you would likely stop down.
Use a tripod with cable release and low light wont be an issue. With a tripod you can also stitch panoramas if you cant get everything in one shot. Just overlap 1/3.
I have a Tokina 12-24f4 and its a good lens for the money. Ive heard good things about the 11-16 tokina but have no persona experience with it. The Nikon is probably good as well but I suspect more expensive. Lots of review sites on line. Heres one. http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/

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Mar 23, 2014 01:03:15   #
JimGuy
 
lighthouse wrote:
Buying an F/2.8 lens to let in more light when you are going to use it at F/8 to F/22 for depth of field means that you are making your decision on irrelevant information.
Having said that, the Tokina is a good lens.


Not necessarily irrelevent. Even when shooting a f2.8 at f8, it focus's at f2.8 and closes down for the shot. So it would focus better in low light even if stopped down if Im not mistaken. You dont need f22 unless you are shooting macros. F8 is plenty small of an aperture for a wide angle lens 80% of the time.

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