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Jan 5, 2012 15:11:34   #
GayleSalamone Loc: Tampa Bay area
 
Does erasing individual photos from the camera do any damage to the compact flash card or sensor? I've been told not to do this but reformat instead. I'd rather cul out the bad pictures before downloading to my computer 100 or more. After downloading, I'm willing to either erase all or reformat.

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Jan 5, 2012 15:14:39   #
photophly Loc: Old Bridge NJ
 
Hi....no erasing photos does no damage to your card at all.I have been doing it for years.After I download them to my computer,then I reformate the card

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Jan 5, 2012 15:25:58   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
photophly wrote:
Hi....no erasing photos does no damage to your card at all.I have been doing it for years.After I download them to my computer,then I reformate the card


I think the question is Erase vs. Format..You should Format the card. that is the cleanest way to do it.

You can ERASE individual images as you go, if you want, bt after everything is on your hard drive(s). then Format.

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Jan 5, 2012 16:35:16   #
ebaribeault Loc: Baltimore
 
CaptainC wrote:
photophly wrote:
Hi....no erasing photos does no damage to your card at all.I have been doing it for years.After I download them to my computer,then I reformate the card


I think the question is Erase vs. Format..You should Format the card. that is the cleanest way to do it.

You can ERASE individual images as you go, if you want, bt after everything is on your hard drive(s). then Format.


I agree

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Jan 5, 2012 16:44:17   #
Mickey88 Loc: Central Florida
 
I've read conflicting opinions on whether or not it can corrupt a card.

I'm curious as to why you want to cull the bad before uploading to your pc, it would be faster to delete them on the pc,

are you uploading via usb cable to the camera, or are you using a card reader

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Jan 5, 2012 17:56:31   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Bt erasing images in camera you leave empty spots which can lead to fragmentation of the card after awhile. It does not hurt anything, but can reduce the useable capacity of that card temporarily. Fortunately, once you download the photos you kept and reformat the card, you have a clean slate to work with once again. Nothing to worry about now except bending pins.

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Jan 5, 2012 20:41:23   #
GayleSalamone Loc: Tampa Bay area
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Bt erasing images in camera you leave empty spots which can lead to fragmentation of the card after awhile. It does not hurt anything, but can reduce the useable capacity of that card temporarily. Fortunately, once you download the photos you kept and reformat the card, you have a clean slate to work with once again. Nothing to worry about now except bending pins.


OK, but what is "bending pins."

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Jan 5, 2012 20:48:49   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
GayleSalamone wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Bt erasing images in camera you leave empty spots which can lead to fragmentation of the card after awhile. It does not hurt anything, but can reduce the useable capacity of that card temporarily. Fortunately, once you download the photos you kept and reformat the card, you have a clean slate to work with once again. Nothing to worry about now except bending pins.


OK, but what is "bending pins."


CF cards exchange information through a configuration of 42 tiny little pins in the camera and in the card readers. These pins fit neatly into the little holes in the card itself. If the guide grooves on the side of the cards get worn, or if you try to insert the card backwards, or sometimes if you just get in a rush when inserting the card, you can get a misalignment and bend those little pins. This is usually catastrophic if you do it in the camera. If you bend the pins in a card reader they are cheap enough to just throw away and replace. Replacing the pin bank in the camera gets quite expensive and, in some older bodies, can turn out to be more than the body is worth.
Lesson is simply to be careful when inserting the card and you should have no troubles.

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Jan 5, 2012 20:54:34   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
MT Shooter wrote:
GayleSalamone wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Bt erasing images in camera you leave empty spots which can lead to fragmentation of the card after awhile. It does not hurt anything, but can reduce the useable capacity of that card temporarily. Fortunately, once you download the photos you kept and reformat the card, you have a clean slate to work with once again. Nothing to worry about now except bending pins.


OK, but what is "bending pins."


CF cards exchange information through a configuration of 42 tiny little pins in the camera and in the card readers. These pins fit neatly into the little holes in the card itself. If the guide grooves on the side of the cards get worn, or if you try to insert the card backwards, or sometimes if you just get in a rush when inserting the card, you can get a misalignment and bend those little pins. This is usually catastrophic if you do it in the camera. If you bend the pins in a card reader they are cheap enough to just throw away and replace. Replacing the pin bank in the camera gets quite expensive and, in some older bodies, can turn out to be more than the body is worth.
Lesson is simply to be careful when inserting the card and you should have no troubles.
quote=GayleSalamone quote=MT Shooter Bt erasing ... (show quote)


I don't use a reader, so this is not a problem, other than when switching out cards.

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Jan 5, 2012 20:57:44   #
GayleSalamone Loc: Tampa Bay area
 
Stumptowner wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
GayleSalamone wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Bt erasing images in camera you leave empty spots which can lead to fragmentation of the card after awhile. It does not hurt anything, but can reduce the useable capacity of that card temporarily. Fortunately, once you download the photos you kept and reformat the card, you have a clean slate to work with once again. Nothing to worry about now except bending pins.


OK, but what is "bending pins."

I never take the Compact Flash out of the camera. Download with the cable. So I should be OK. Thanks.

CF cards exchange information through a configuration of 42 tiny little pins in the camera and in the card readers. These pins fit neatly into the little holes in the card itself. If the guide grooves on the side of the cards get worn, or if you try to insert the card backwards, or sometimes if you just get in a rush when inserting the card, you can get a misalignment and bend those little pins. This is usually catastrophic if you do it in the camera. If you bend the pins in a card reader they are cheap enough to just throw away and replace. Replacing the pin bank in the camera gets quite expensive and, in some older bodies, can turn out to be more than the body is worth.
Lesson is simply to be careful when inserting the card and you should have no troubles.
quote=GayleSalamone quote=MT Shooter Bt erasing ... (show quote)


I don't use a reader, so this is not a problem, other than when switching out cards.
quote=MT Shooter quote=GayleSalamone quote=MT S... (show quote)

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Jan 5, 2012 21:02:14   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
GayleSalamone wrote:
Stumptowner wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
GayleSalamone wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Bt erasing images in camera you leave empty spots which can lead to fragmentation of the card after awhile. It does not hurt anything, but can reduce the useable capacity of that card temporarily. Fortunately, once you download the photos you kept and reformat the card, you have a clean slate to work with once again. Nothing to worry about now except bending pins.


OK, but what is "bending pins."

I never take the Compact Flash out of the camera. Download with the cable. So I should be OK. Thanks.

CF cards exchange information through a configuration of 42 tiny little pins in the camera and in the card readers. These pins fit neatly into the little holes in the card itself. If the guide grooves on the side of the cards get worn, or if you try to insert the card backwards, or sometimes if you just get in a rush when inserting the card, you can get a misalignment and bend those little pins. This is usually catastrophic if you do it in the camera. If you bend the pins in a card reader they are cheap enough to just throw away and replace. Replacing the pin bank in the camera gets quite expensive and, in some older bodies, can turn out to be more than the body is worth.
Lesson is simply to be careful when inserting the card and you should have no troubles.
quote=GayleSalamone quote=MT Shooter Bt erasing ... (show quote)


I don't use a reader, so this is not a problem, other than when switching out cards.
quote=MT Shooter quote=GayleSalamone quote=MT S... (show quote)
quote=Stumptowner quote=MT Shooter quote=GayleS... (show quote)


Gayle: I've been following your procedure: delete as I go, download the "keepers", and re-format. I do this "daily". I think your process is fine. I don't use a reader-- and frankly don't see the advantage.

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Jan 5, 2012 21:07:55   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
I've been told to always remove the card from my camera and load directly from the card to the computer, never to download using a cable from the camera to the computer. The nice sales man at the camera store told me to do so, I can't recall the full reason but it had something to do with if there ever was a misread from the computer to the camera I could fry the little computer peices in the camera.

I trust my sales man, he's never lead me wrong yet.

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Jan 5, 2012 21:19:28   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
MWAC wrote:
I've been told to always remove the card from my camera and load directly from the card to the computer, never to download using a cable from the camera to the computer. The nice sales man at the camera store told me to do so, I can't recall the full reason but it had something to do with if there ever was a misread from the computer to the camera I could fry the little computer peices in the camera.

I trust my sales man, he's never lead me wrong yet.


Never heard that. I'll check at the pro shop near where I live.....

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Jan 5, 2012 21:52:24   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
MWAC wrote:
I've been told to always remove the card from my camera and load directly from the card to the computer, never to download using a cable from the camera to the computer. The nice sales man at the camera store told me to do so, I can't recall the full reason but it had something to do with if there ever was a misread from the computer to the camera I could fry the little computer peices in the camera.

I trust my sales man, he's never lead me wrong yet.


Pulling the card and sticking it in the computer would result in faster data transfer. It ain't any better or worse on the card or camera. Don't use Windows to format the card, the camera does a better job.

As a technician who understands electronics, I ain't buying that downloading from the camera can fry the camera. They designed it to work that way or they wouldn't have put the connector on it. I'll suggest he's trying to fluff his commission.

However I will buy that the connector on the camera can get broken if you aren't careful on removal or if you forget its connected and grab it and walk away.

Mikey...

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Jan 5, 2012 21:57:59   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
RocketScientist wrote:
MWAC wrote:
I've been told to always remove the card from my camera and load directly from the card to the computer, never to download using a cable from the camera to the computer. The nice sales man at the camera store told me to do so, I can't recall the full reason but it had something to do with if there ever was a misread from the computer to the camera I could fry the little computer peices in the camera.

I trust my sales man, he's never lead me wrong yet.


Pulling the card and sticking it in the computer would result in faster data transfer. It ain't any better or worse on the card or camera. Don't use Windows to format the card, the camera does a better job.

As a technician who understands electronics, I ain't buying that downloading from the camera can fry the camera. They designed it to work that way or they wouldn't have put the connector on it. I'll suggest he's trying to fluff his commission.

However I will buy that the connector on the camera can get broken if you aren't careful on removal or if you forget its connected and grab it and walk away.

Mikey...
quote=MWAC I've been told to always remove the ca... (show quote)


fluff is commission with what he didn't sell me a thing that day, he's also the same man who talked me out of spending $1,500+ on a new camera body and spending $150 at the local community college to take a couple classes on how to use my 40D correctly.

(I also didn't purchase my 40D from him, I purchased it used off craigslist for $250 dollars).

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