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Trying to catch a flock of birds.
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Jan 11, 2012 16:56:09   #
Di.Longstreet Loc: Georgetown, Maine
 
There are moments when I do get a bird in flight just right. This is one of my better moments.



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Jan 12, 2012 16:54:03   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
Di:
Trying to photograph a flock of dark birds against a dark background with failing light is a receipe for disaster. Without knowing what camera body and lens you are using and what your settings were, it's impossible to make a judgement about what to do beyond the basic panning techniques others have posted.

Birdpix

A flock of Skimmers
A flock of Skimmers...

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Jan 12, 2012 17:09:55   #
Di.Longstreet Loc: Georgetown, Maine
 
Birdpix

Wow. That is the kind of shot I want to get. I see the ducks/geese take off or splash down and my timing or the light is not right. First let me say that the Canon XSI does not do well in low light at all. Even late afternoon the camera doesn't do well. I have been out trying different times of day to see how to get the max out of this camera or maybe its my lens ( limits) Canon 55mm-250mm IS. At the 55mm and the 250mm I find it lacking.
So I try to keep it mid range. I am up for any suggestions on a different lens.

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Jan 12, 2012 19:45:49   #
Ragarm
 
Can you get more specific? Is the issue one of being able to focus in low light? Or is it one of being able to use a fast enough shutter speed? Please relate the issues you have with this camera/lens/situation to the exposure triangle (shutter speed, ISO, aperture).

If your lens is delivering at the edge of technology, then you'd be wasting your money buying a replacement. What's more, how can anyone responsibly make a recommendation for you to spend money without knowing the demands you want to place on the lens?

Di.Longstreet wrote:
Birdpix

Wow. That is the kind of shot I want to get. I see the ducks/geese take off or splash down and my timing or the light is not right. First let me say that the Canon XSI does not do well in low light at all. Even late afternoon the camera doesn't do well. I have been out trying different times of day to see how to get the max out of this camera or maybe its my lens ( limits) Canon 55mm-250mm IS. At the 55mm and the 250mm I find it lacking.
So I try to keep it mid range. I am up for any suggestions on a different lens.
Birdpix br br Wow. That is the kind of shot I wa... (show quote)

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Jan 12, 2012 20:31:03   #
Di.Longstreet Loc: Georgetown, Maine
 
Ragarm

Example 1/500 , Different F stops 5.6 ( lens won't go lower ) , 6.3. up to 8. Images are too dark and this is 3:30 in the afternoon. (sunset 4 :15pm) I left ISO on automatic . I have tried ISO 400, 800 on manual to bring in more light- not working. I have done test shots on lighting before shooting in program, auto and A-Dep to get some idea of settings to try. Still seems to be trial and error. I need bright grey day or lots of sunlight to avoid dark exposure. I keep reading and practicing. Here is shot 1/500 F 6.3 ISO 100 - shot of Chickadee - 11am

contrast adjusted for color.
contrast  adjusted for color....

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Jan 12, 2012 23:24:29   #
Ragarm
 
Di,

I have to say this looks like a very nice shot. Everything that wasn't moving fast is sharp. More to your point, I think, you have a significant number of pixels all along the intensity (horizontal) axis. Any more exposure and you would have over exposed those very pretty white areas.

I'm guessing the reason you think this image is underexposed has to do with the lack of texture in the black area of the bird's head. I suggest that is not only a very small price to pay for this shot, but that I don't think it's reasonable to expect to more from a dSLR.

Given the range of intensity in your photo, I don't think any lens would do better. It's a fine shot, in my view, one I would be proud of.

Di.Longstreet wrote:
Ragarm

Example 1/500 , Different F stops 5.6 ( lens won't go lower ) , 6.3. up to 8. Images are too dark and this is 3:30 in the afternoon. (sunset 4 :15pm) I left ISO on automatic . I have tried ISO 400, 800 on manual to bring in more light- not working. I have done test shots on lighting before shooting in program, auto and A-Dep to get some idea of settings to try. Still seems to be trial and error. I need bright grey day or lots of sunlight to avoid dark exposure. I keep reading and practicing. Here is shot 1/500 F 6.3 ISO 100 - shot of Chickadee - 11am
Ragarm br br Example 1/500 , Different F stops 5... (show quote)

Histogram (ViewNX 2) showing number of pixels (verticle axis) at intensity (horizontal axis).
Histogram (ViewNX 2) showing number of pixels  (ve...

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Jan 12, 2012 23:50:52   #
Ragarm
 
I applied an S-curve to your photo to even out the number of pixels over the range of intensity. See this for explanation of the too

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/photoshop-curves.htm?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=fup3

and let us know if you like the change.

Modified image
Modified image...

Histogram after S-curve
Histogram after S-curve...

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