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Feb 27, 2014 19:52:04   #
CompuBob Loc: Carson, CA
 
What are the advantages to moving up to version 12? I keep upgrading every two years or so as Adobe comes up with another version. Is it worth it (even given the relatively low cost)?

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Feb 27, 2014 20:19:06   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
CompuBob wrote:
What are the advantages to moving up to version 12? I keep upgrading every two years or so as Adobe comes up with another version. Is it worth it (even given the relatively low cost)?


go youtube search new features in pse 12.

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Feb 27, 2014 21:17:34   #
Frapha Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
 
Here's a good side-by-side comparison -- Some folks may think it worthwhile to upgrade, while others won't see the need. I guess in the end it depends on what you want in your PP.

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements/buying-guide.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8kjdfBg9i8

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Feb 27, 2014 21:34:42   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
CompuBob wrote:
What are the advantages to moving up to version 12? I keep upgrading every two years or so as Adobe comes up with another version. Is it worth it (even given the relatively low cost)?


Version 12 has a content-aware move tool. Nice, works fairly well. I rarely use it but sometimes it does come in handy. It also will fill in edges if you rotate a photo, rather than making you crop it. Sometimes this works well, sometimes not so well. I haven't found any other new must-have features. There's a magic extractor tool in 11 that they took away from version 12. I kept both versions on my computer. Occasionally 12 has been buggy. When it acts up, I have version 11 to fall back on. 11 has always been solid as a rock for me.

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Feb 27, 2014 21:45:34   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
magic extractor tool still in 12
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5717611

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Feb 27, 2014 21:52:27   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
dirtpusher wrote:
magic extractor tool still in 12
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5717611


No, it is gone. It was not compatible with their plans to make PSE a higher-bit program.

Here is a comment from Adobe:

BobGager
13. BobGager,
Oct 21, 2013 9:58 AM in reply to chucktheweevil
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Yes, the Magic Extracotr is going to be missed. (I hope you understand we didn't remove it without a lot of hesitation)

In PSE11, we did add the very powerfull enhancements to Refine Edge. Once you learn them, it makes Magic Extractor feel, well, not so magic.

You should give it a try.

Here's a tutorial on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrl3Qwg6zSc&feature=c4-overview-vl&list =PL310C228653956E4B

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Feb 27, 2014 22:00:46   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Heirloom Tomato wrote:
No, it is gone. It was not compatible with their plans to make PSE a higher-bit program.

Here is a comment from Adobe:

BobGager
13. BobGager,
Oct 21, 2013 9:58 AM in reply to chucktheweevil
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Yes, the Magic Extracotr is going to be missed. (I hope you understand we didn't remove it without a lot of hesitation)

In PSE11, we did add the very powerfull enhancements to Refine Edge. Once you learn them, it makes Magic Extractor feel, well, not so magic.

You should give it a try.

Here's a tutorial on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrl3Qwg6zSc&feature=c4-overview-vl&list =PL310C228653956E4B
No, it is gone. It was not compatible with their p... (show quote)


okie dokie

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Feb 27, 2014 22:07:43   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Use the Quick select tool together with the Refine Edge tool to quickly select and extract anything from your photos. but it is an extra step. the advantage of using refine edge, it allows smoother fethering in removed sections. Then you can copy the selection and choose a new file (file>new>from clipboard) or paste it into another image.

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Feb 27, 2014 22:13:55   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
the thing that got me was. Lighting Effects filter was removed. but i found the files on line, and put them back.

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Feb 27, 2014 23:38:09   #
Ziza Loc: USA
 
dirtpusher wrote:
the thing that got me was. Lighting Effects filter was removed. but i found the files on line, and put them back.

You can also put Color Variations back in PSE12 (or you can use this version's Auto Smart Tone).

http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/auto-smart-tone.html

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Feb 28, 2014 00:00:06   #
Ziza Loc: USA
 
CompuBob wrote:
What are the advantages to moving up to version 12? I keep upgrading every two years or so as Adobe comes up with another version. Is it worth it (even given the relatively low cost)?

Don't expect too many changes and/or new features in Elements 12. Adobe had already done a major overhaul with Elements 11. I myself would have passed on Elements 12 except for the fact that I didn't have to pay for it.

I have not experienced any problems with Elements 12 being buggy (or with Elements 11).

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Feb 28, 2014 06:04:59   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Ziza wrote:
Don't expect too many changes and/or new features in Elements 12. Adobe had already done a major overhaul with Elements 11.


I want to vote heavily for this comment by Ziza. I had PSE 9 and wanted to upgrade to 11, but with the Black Friday deals, it cost less to go with 12.

Click on Frapha's first link and you'll see that what 12 does more of is better communication with smart phone and tablet and the ability to upload to Twitter. I don't do any of those, so it doesn't matter to me.

As for the new "content aware", (sorry, HT), this is the most over hyped unusable tool they have had yet. They expect you to believe that after you move an object, it's smart enough to know what can't be seen and fill in the blank space. It just can't be done and doesn't work!

As for the features eliminated in PSE 11, almost all of them can be reinstalled or worked around to satisfaction, and the refine edge tool in 11 more than makes up for the elimination of the magic extractor.

So in answer to your original question, "What are the advantages to moving up to version 12?", for my money, very little. Hold off until there's another major upgrade.

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Feb 28, 2014 09:02:03   #
chaprick
 
CompuBob wrote:
What are the advantages to moving up to version 12? I keep upgrading every two years or so as Adobe comes up with another version. Is it worth it (even given the relatively low cost)?


I had this exact same question. Why not consider signing up for Photoshop CC (you can get that now for $9.99/month)? Then you will have the latest version of Photoshop, Bridge, Lightroom, etc... AND still have Elements 11. At $9.99 per month you would be getting much more than paying to upgrade every time Elements changes. I am sure I am missing something that is negative about PS CC (maybe future price hikes), but it seems worth considering.

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Feb 28, 2014 09:39:23   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Frapha wrote:
Here's a good side-by-side comparison -- Some folks may think it worthwhile to upgrade, while others won't see the need. I guess in the end it depends on what you want in your PP.

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements/buying-guide.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8kjdfBg9i8

According to Adobe's chart, it looks like PSE 12 has Content Aware Fill, and that's a biggie. That's one of my favorite features of PS.

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Feb 28, 2014 12:00:31   #
Ziza Loc: USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
According to Adobe's chart, it looks like PSE 12 has Content Aware Fill, and that's a biggie. That's one of my favorite features of PS.

No version of Elements has the Content Aware Fill as in Photoshop (Edit>Fill>Content Aware). What Elements offers is:

Beginning with version 9 Adobe introduced the Content-Aware setting to the Spot Healing Brush.

http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/wp-content/themes/pet/_mov/elements9/PET-Elements-9-Content-Aware.mov

Beginning with version 12 Adobe introduced the Content-Aware Move tool.

http://download.photoshopelementsuser.com/LC/LearningCenter12/Elements12_ContentAware.mov

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