Neilp Loc: Jersey, C.I.

Hi all

Just been playing with some old pics of mine in PS.

And was wondering if any one has come across any plugins or standalone software to align images, based on setting key point pairs.
I have been doing a reasonable job 'long hand' in PS using the warp/skew / distort tools, but to find an auto pluggin would be great.

i was thinking of something along the lines of opening the Then and New images, in separate layers, then specifying and labelling key points or lines in each layer.

Yes it can be done with lots of fiddling and opacity sliding, but to be able to set some points..pair them up across the layers and hit the 'Align' button, woudl be great.

I do know of the Auto Align feature in PS...but that is not enough when you may only have certain features the same in the images. And that only aligns images, it does not, from what I have seen, skew and warp a layer to fit the other.

My current project, there is a boundary stone in the fore ground, roof lines and some windows and buildings. Lots to go on and it is still a pain manually.

https://www.fourmilab.ch/images/lignieres_then_and_now/craft.html

Kentee Loc: Southern California

In Photoshop, use the lens correction filter to straightn the verticals. If they are tilted in the bottom of the image, rotate it 90 degrees clockwise twice and straighten the bottom half.

Tilted verticals are mostly in the top half of the image. In this case, I see no problem with the bottom half.

Neilp Loc: Jersey, C.I.

Hi, thanks for the reply, but you may have misunderstood my original question.

When I said


I could have listed all the image manipulation tools in PS, but thought that giving the general gist would suffice.

Yes , Lens correction tools can correct the warp in the building on the RHS, but it is not going to match the lines in that image to the lines int eh other image.

I want to pull all images in to one image , in different layers, pick selected points, and have PS do all the donkey work.

The method you describe is what I am doing now..using the many and various PS tools to manipulate one image to match the other.

I wondeed if there was a way to mark exact point pairs on each image and get PS to do the rest.

For example in the sample images.. I could mark the corners of the square boundary stone, label them, ABC..then mark the same places in the second image or layer..also ABC.
Mark corresponding points like window corners, roof lines, chimney pots etc on each image..then hit a single process button and let PS do the work of skewing and distorting just one image to match the second

ottopj Loc: Annapolis, MD USA

Neilp: maybe your question wasn't clear.

Think of Patton: I don't give orders that can be understood; I give orders that can't be misunderstood!

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Removing the s makes it clickable.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/images/lignieres_then_and_now/craft.html

Neilp Loc: Jersey, C.I.

I have just re read it..



Seems clear to me, what I was asking ..but could be an American /real English thing ?






Strange how copying and pasting the original address does not work..but I never changed it before posting Just copied and pasted direct from the address bar

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

It seems to be only on this site because I've used "https" as a link before.

Picdude Loc: Ohio

I was original going to suggest looking at HDR software, as I know some packages use control points to deghost, but I don't think it will work the way you want. When you say PS, do you mean full photoshop or elements? Full photoshop extended has 3D functions and there may be something in there that will help. Please let us know what you find, sounds like you're into a very interesting project.

Neilp Loc: Jersey, C.I.

Well...not exactly what I wanted..but it works easier than the skew/warp/distort tools.

i had played with it a bit before but had another go today.

It is the puppet warp feature in Full Photoshop CS6.

It does not auto warp, but once you put a pin in, it locks one layer to another, so unlike the other warp options..once you have aligned one section of the image, furthe movements elsewhere do not change those bits.

Couple of images attached of 1980's and now 2014.
Todays shot was wrong time of day. but I was in the area this morning.
About 50 shots...it is amazing how much differences just an inch or so of camera movement makes to little details like the little black corner of roof, in lower central portion, peeking out from behind the foreground roof.
Add all the potential camera movement, to unknown original focal length..it is a hell of a job.
Shame it was so foggy when the original was taken.