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Feb 15, 2014 14:25:15   #
PapaMike Loc: Riverside, California
 
I am looking for members' opinions and advice.

I mentioned to a friend of mine that I was actively looking to move up to a full-frame camera. My friend who has a Nikon D700 in excellent condition, said he would trade me straight across for my Nikon D7000 (also in excellent condition). He thought I was crazy to trade newer technology for his D700, even though my D7000 sports a DX sensor. He is suggesting that I try his D700 to see how I like it before moving forward. My inclination is to go ahead with the trade. (My friend no longer uses his D700 because he also has a D600 and is trading it for a D610.)

My question is, am I missing something? Thanks~ Mike

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Feb 15, 2014 14:33:55   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
PapaMike wrote:
I am looking for members' opinions and advice.

I mentioned to a friend of mine that I was actively looking to move up to a full-frame camera. My friend who has a Nikon D700 in excellent condition, said he would trade me straight across for my Nikon D7000 (also in excellent condition). He thought I was crazy to trade newer technology for his D700, even though my D7000 sports a DX sensor. He is suggesting that I try his D700 to see how I like it before moving forward. My inclination is to go ahead with the trade. (My friend no longer uses his D700 because he also has a D600 and is trading it for a D610.)

My question is, am I missing something? Thanks~ Mike
I am looking for members' opinions and advice. b... (show quote)

You're getting a good deal, a used D700 sells on KEH for more than a new D7100, and twice what a new D7000 costs (still available at B&H). When the D7000 came out, the image quality seemed to compare well with the D700, so he's getting more pixels in the DX frame. Shooting in DX mode on the D700 gives about 5mp, and your D7000 is 16mp, so he gets the benefit of "extending" his long lenses. I understand why he like the trade, but not that he considers it balanced. Cash or a first round draft pick should be included. :-)

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Feb 15, 2014 14:34:03   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
GRAB IT!
If you don't, pass on my name, I will make that trade any day.

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Feb 15, 2014 14:34:49   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
PapaMike wrote:
I am looking for members' opinions and advice.

I mentioned to a friend of mine that I was actively looking to move up to a full-frame camera. My friend who has a Nikon D700 in excellent condition, said he would trade me straight across for my Nikon D7000 (also in excellent condition). He thought I was crazy to trade newer technology for his D700, even though my D7000 sports a DX sensor. He is suggesting that I try his D700 to see how I like it before moving forward. My inclination is to go ahead with the trade. (My friend no longer uses his D700 because he also has a D600 and is trading it for a D610.)

My question is, am I missing something? Thanks~ Mike
I am looking for members' opinions and advice. b... (show quote)


I'm not a Nikon user and actually know very little about their gear but let me express an opinion.

From what I read on the forums I'm on so many seem to think that having the "latest and greatest" is essential to getting the kinds of photos and video they want... to me that's not true.

To me it's all about the skill and talent you have. Full frame can be very nice but to me it's over kill unless you're planning huge prints or shooting for publications.

However, getting the most from your gear is always desirable and to me if you have that talent and skill you'll be able to do that regardless of the equipment you have.

So, bad trade?, probably not. The "latest and greatest" doesn't really mean much except to the camera maker's marketers who'll always try to convince you that you "need" it.

Best of luck.

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Feb 15, 2014 14:36:56   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
jimmya wrote:
From what I read on the forums I'm on so many seem to think that having the "latest and greatest" is essential to getting the kinds of photos and video they want... to me that's not true.

Neither of these cameras is the "latest and greatest".

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Feb 15, 2014 15:19:26   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
amehta wrote:
Neither of these cameras is the "latest and greatest".


That's my point. You don't need what the camera marketers tell you, you "need".

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Feb 15, 2014 17:09:11   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
I have both of these cameras. Assuming you have full-frame lenses to use on the 700, that would be my choice. The IQ on the 7000 is very good but the 700 is still a touch better for my use, even though it is older technology. Another thing that makes me pick the 700 is the user interface is similar to the D200, 300 and 800. I never liked the controls on the D7000.

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Feb 15, 2014 18:04:08   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
PapaMike wrote:
I am looking for members' opinions and advice.

I mentioned to a friend of mine that I was actively looking to move up to a full-frame camera. My friend who has a Nikon D700 in excellent condition, said he would trade me straight across for my Nikon D7000 (also in excellent condition). He thought I was crazy to trade newer technology for his D700, even though my D7000 sports a DX sensor. He is suggesting that I try his D700 to see how I like it before moving forward. My inclination is to go ahead with the trade. (My friend no longer uses his D700 because he also has a D600 and is trading it for a D610.)

My question is, am I missing something? Thanks~ Mike
I am looking for members' opinions and advice. b... (show quote)


Having had both I would advise that you jump at the deal.

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Feb 16, 2014 08:18:08   #
Teacher Loc: Alabama
 
I have those two cameras and I like both of them! If I had to choose one, it would be the D700. Seems to be a little sharper and handles varying light conditions a little better. I also use FX lenses and only have one DX lens. I still like the crop factor on the DX and use it for birds and wildlife.
PapaMike wrote:
I am looking for members' opinions and advice.

I mentioned to a friend of mine that I was actively looking to move up to a full-frame camera. My friend who has a Nikon D700 in excellent condition, said he would trade me straight across for my Nikon D7000 (also in excellent condition). He thought I was crazy to trade newer technology for his D700, even though my D7000 sports a DX sensor. He is suggesting that I try his D700 to see how I like it before moving forward. My inclination is to go ahead with the trade. (My friend no longer uses his D700 because he also has a D600 and is trading it for a D610.)

My question is, am I missing something? Thanks~ Mike
I am looking for members' opinions and advice. b... (show quote)

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Feb 16, 2014 08:30:11   #
MikeMissano
 
Give tiger woods clubs from target and you get the best clubs ever produced ..go to golf coarse and play against him for 18 holes...he will blow you away...hence it's not about equipment as much as talent.......

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Feb 16, 2014 08:51:44   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
Why are you considering the move to full frame? Both are fine cameras, though not 'latest and greatest'. D700 will give you better low light performance and wider angles, assuming you have full frame lenses. Only you know if you're willing and able to buy new lenses for your new camera if not.

Seems to me your friend's needs and yours seem to differ, and will benefit both in this deal.

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Feb 16, 2014 09:01:05   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
jimmya wrote:
I'm not a Nikon user and actually know very little about their gear but let me express an opinion.

From what I read on the forums I'm on so many seem to think that having the "latest and greatest" is essential to getting the kinds of photos and video they want... to me that's not true.

To me it's all about the skill and talent you have. Full frame can be very nice but to me it's over kill unless you're planning huge prints or shooting for publications.

However, getting the most from your gear is always desirable and to me if you have that talent and skill you'll be able to do that regardless of the equipment you have.

So, bad trade?, probably not. The "latest and greatest" doesn't really mean much except to the camera maker's marketers who'll always try to convince you that you "need" it.

Best of luck.
I'm not a Nikon user and actually know very little... (show quote)


You not correct. The differences between full frame and crop sensor is NOT about larger file sizes and images. One of the significant differences between the two is DOF. Crop sensors have a larger DOF. But having a constantly large DOF is a limitation, even in larger apertures is not an asset.

As a photographer, my best images are often with a shallower DOF to get the bokeh (lovely soft blur outside of the focus object). With a full frame, you have control over the bokeh while with a crop sensor, it is less. The differences are visibly significant.

Along with other factors - make the trade.

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Feb 16, 2014 09:52:17   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
Mark7829 wrote:
You not correct. The differences between full frame and crop sensor is NOT about larger file sizes and images. One of the significant differences between the two is DOF. Crop sensors have a larger DOF. But having a constantly large DOF is a limitation, even in larger apertures is not an asset.

As a photographer, my best images are often with a shallower DOF to get the bokeh (lovely soft blur outside of the focus object). With a full frame, you have control over the bokeh while with a crop sensor, it is less. The differences are visibly significant.

Along with other factors - make the trade.
You not correct. The differences between full fra... (show quote)


Agreed, assuming you have or are willing to buy FF lenses.

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Feb 16, 2014 13:19:15   #
RJNaylor Loc: Delmar, New York
 
This would be my only concern -- you may have a batch of lenses for the d7000 that you like. Otherwise just thinking of the camera I'd grab it!


steve_stoneblossom wrote:
Agreed, assuming you have or are willing to buy FF lenses.

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Feb 16, 2014 13:39:48   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
MikeMissano wrote:
Give tiger woods clubs from target and you get the best clubs ever produced ..go to golf coarse and play against him for 18 holes...he will blow you away...hence it's not about equipment as much as talent.......

I think the photographer, camera, and lenses need to be comparable for the best results.

Make Tiger Woods use the clubs from Target for a year on the PGA tour and watch him never win a tournament.

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