Nikon vs. Canon Lens
Feb 12, 2014 07:48:18 #
The Villages
Loc: The Villages, Florida
To my knowledge, the canon lens with the Red Ring (and I guess the White lens) have supposedly a higher caliber quality construction, as compared to the lenses without those features. I think this pertains more to the lens construction rather then the glass used.
On the Nikon side, putting aside the $$$$lenses, is there an equivalent differential in the quality of lens. Does an FX vs. DX have a different construction quality standard. For example a 18-200mm DX vs. 28-300mm FX (both having the same equivilent range)?
Look forward to your input.
On the Nikon side, putting aside the $$$$lenses, is there an equivalent differential in the quality of lens. Does an FX vs. DX have a different construction quality standard. For example a 18-200mm DX vs. 28-300mm FX (both having the same equivilent range)?
Look forward to your input.
Feb 12, 2014 08:02:50 #
PCity wrote:
To my knowledge, the canon lens with the Red Ring ... (show quote)
The best lenses have the best construction and the best glass. They are often weather-sealed.
That's one area where I think Nikon missed the boat, and it has been discussed here before. Canon's top lenses are called L lenses. If you want to impress someone, just say that all your lenses are L lenses. They also make some of their top lenses white, so they stand out in a crowd, which isn't necessarily a good thing.
Nikon has no such designation. They use the term ED on some, referring to it's ability to reduce chromatic aberration, so an ED lens would be better than a non ED. Still, they need a simple way to identify their top lenses. Unfortunately, ED is not something that most men would want to brag about.
http://www.nikon.com/products/sportoptics/how_to/guide/fieldscopes/choosing/choosing_03.htm
Feb 12, 2014 08:08:26 #
PCity wrote:
To my knowledge, the canon lens with the Red Ring ... (show quote)
The Canon lenses you refer to are their "L" series. Their premium line. There is a difference, to some degree in construction as well as features but the biggest difference seems to be in the glass. More elements, different coatings, etc. I would assume that Nikon has the same deal but don't know what the designation is.
Feb 12, 2014 08:12:21 #
Pablo8
Loc: Nottingham UK.
[quote=jerryc41]The best lenses have the best construction and the best glass. They are often weather-sealed.
They also make some of their top lenses white, so they stand out in a crowd, which isn't necessarily a good thing.
As I understood from Pro' colleague who uses Canon (I'm Nikon since 1959) The 'White Barrel' lenses were put out by Canon, when sports photographers at the Australian Open Tennis, complained of the sun making the black barrel lenses form condensation on the internal elements. The white idea was to keep the lens cooler in the hot sun. No shade when you are courtside.
They also make some of their top lenses white, so they stand out in a crowd, which isn't necessarily a good thing.
As I understood from Pro' colleague who uses Canon (I'm Nikon since 1959) The 'White Barrel' lenses were put out by Canon, when sports photographers at the Australian Open Tennis, complained of the sun making the black barrel lenses form condensation on the internal elements. The white idea was to keep the lens cooler in the hot sun. No shade when you are courtside.
Feb 12, 2014 08:16:26 #
jerryc41 wrote:
The best lenses have the best construction and the... (show quote)
Didn't know that! Have to agree with you though. It's not likely to be a bragging point amongst a bunch of guys! Besides, who needs a droopy lens?! :)
Feb 12, 2014 08:23:21 #
jerryc41 wrote:
The best lenses have the best construction and the... (show quote)
Watching commercials lately, I keep expecting to see groups of men form Low-T clubs and parade down the street shouting "I have Low-T and I'm proud!"
Feb 12, 2014 09:19:05 #
dsmeltz wrote:
Watching commercials lately, I keep expecting to see groups of men form Low-T clubs and parade down the street shouting "I have Low-T and I'm proud!"
Years ago, who would have thought that you would see a large section in the supermarket for Depends and similar items? It's good that someone can provide products that people need. I just hope I don't have a need for Depends. Although, I have heard that people who go to events where they will be away from a restroom for hours will wear them.
Feb 12, 2014 09:22:34 #
PCity wrote:
To my knowledge, the canon lens with the Red Ring ... (show quote)
Why the question? Every one knows that Canon lenses are far superior to those vastly inferior nikon lenses. Just a Joke folks.
Feb 12, 2014 09:54:27 #
boberic wrote:
Why the question? Every one knows that Canon lenses are far superior to those vastly inferior nikon lenses. Just a Joke folks.
No real man wants a lens with "ED". :) :)
Feb 12, 2014 10:11:53 #
LFingar wrote:
No real man wants a lens with "ED". :) :)
A piece of black electrical tape covers that nicely - on the lens, I mean.
Feb 12, 2014 10:11:54 #
Blaster6
Loc: Central PA
[quote=Pablo8]
Not condensation but expansion. The elements expand a certain percentage when heated. This is not a problem with small diamater lenses because the percentage of a small diamater is a small distance and the lens can stay in tolerence.
The larger diamater lenses expand by the same percentage but since it is a larger diamater the expansion is a larger distance and that could cause the lens to go out of spec so the larger lenses are white to reflect heat. They just happen to also be "L" lenses. This expansion is the same reason you can focus past infinity in some lenses. As they heat up you will need to go a little further to get to correct infinity focus. You probably never notice this unless you are doing manual focus.
jerryc41 wrote:
As I understood from Pro' colleague who uses Canon (I'm Nikon since 1959) The 'White Barrel' lenses were put out by Canon, when sports photographers at the Australian Open Tennis, complained of the sun making the black barrel lenses form condensation on the internal elements. The white idea was to keep the lens cooler in the hot sun. No shade when you are courtside.
Not condensation but expansion. The elements expand a certain percentage when heated. This is not a problem with small diamater lenses because the percentage of a small diamater is a small distance and the lens can stay in tolerence.
The larger diamater lenses expand by the same percentage but since it is a larger diamater the expansion is a larger distance and that could cause the lens to go out of spec so the larger lenses are white to reflect heat. They just happen to also be "L" lenses. This expansion is the same reason you can focus past infinity in some lenses. As they heat up you will need to go a little further to get to correct infinity focus. You probably never notice this unless you are doing manual focus.
Feb 12, 2014 10:19:41 #
jerryc41 wrote:
A piece of black electrical tape covers that nicely - on the lens, I mean.
I'm glad you specified "on the lens"!! I'm not sure I would want to have any more information then that! :)
Feb 12, 2014 10:47:13 #
LFingar wrote:
I'm glad you specified "on the lens"!! I'm not sure I would want to have any more information then that! :)
Now try to get that "other" image out of your mind. :D
Feb 12, 2014 11:02:56 #
LFingar wrote:
I'm glad you specified "on the lens"!! I'm not sure I would want to have any more information then that! :)
Agreed! Otherwise I would need to buy a new roll of gaffer's tape.
Feb 12, 2014 11:06:31 #
dsmeltz wrote:
Agreed! Otherwise I would need to buy a new roll of gaffer's tape.
That would, too, but removing it...:D
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