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Feb 9, 2014 11:37:30   #
JP/Avery Loc: Australia
 
As I do alot of traveling and like to travel light iv been looking at buying a mirred 800mm lense.i didnt expect much in quality in build or picture when first read about them untill i read a review . The price, size and weight is very appealing.weighing just as much as a canon 24-70.i wanted to know if anyone has used or is using one and what you think of the lense.
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Left mirred 800mm, middle sigma 50-500, right canon 600mm
Just to compare the size.




I did not take these photos!





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Feb 9, 2014 12:46:48   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I bought a mirror lens. Its okay on a bright and a sunny day.
Either it will be tac sharp, or it will be out of focus. they only focus manually. I bought a focus screen for my camera and it doesn't seem to help with focusing.
Mirror lenses leave tiny circles where there are bright spots in the photo, wet leafs, shiny things, etc.
You will probably need a tripod, it does not have image stabilization

I think you will either love it or hate it, but I would leave it home if I was just taking one or two lenses on a trip.

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Feb 9, 2014 13:19:59   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
" a given" the canon and sigma in that order will produce better images. there are some mirror lenses that produce good images. the apature is set at f 6.3 or f 8.0, so dof is also set. imagine being back in the old days ,shooting wide open with manual focus only. it can be done.up the iso and shutter speed. buy a used sony a mount or Minolta digital camera and the Minolta af 500mm f 8.0 mirror lens , and you will do well. go to search and type in mirror or reflex lenses and look at the samples. KEH is a good source to put together such a combo.

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Feb 9, 2014 13:40:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JP/Avery wrote:
As I do alot of traveling and like to travel light iv been looking at buying a mirred 800mm lense.i didnt expect much in quality in build or picture when first read about them untill i read a review . The price, size and weight is very appealing.weighing just as much as a canon 24-70.i wanted to know if anyone has used or is using one and what you think of the lense.
Pictured,
Left mirred 800mm, middle sigma 50-500, right canon 600mm
Just to compare the size.

I did not take these photos!
As I do alot of traveling and like to travel light... (show quote)

This is an Adorama exclusive, and it has gotten decent reviews, considering what it is. It is an F/6.3, compared with most others that are F/8.0.

http://www.adorama.com/PRO50063CA.html

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Feb 9, 2014 14:19:20   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
JP/Avery wrote:
As I do alot of traveling and like to travel light iv been looking at buying a mirred 800mm lense.i didnt expect much in quality in build or picture when first read about them untill i read a review . The price, size and weight is very appealing.weighing just as much as a canon 24-70.i wanted to know if anyone has used or is using one and what you think of the lense.
Pictured,
Left mirred 800mm, middle sigma 50-500, right canon 600mm
Just to compare the size.




I did not take these photos!
As I do alot of traveling and like to travel light... (show quote)


Results probably would be just as good or even better if you spent that money on a good "bridge" super-zoom camera like the SX50 to carry instead of the mirror lens.

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Feb 10, 2014 09:44:27   #
JP/Avery Loc: Australia
 
Ahh no thank you.
Wahawk wrote:
Results probably would be just as good or even better if you spent that money on a good "bridge" super-zoom camera like the SX50 to carry instead of the mirror lens.

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Feb 10, 2014 14:52:31   #
jeryh Loc: Oxfordshire UK
 
I have a sony 500mm AF Mirror; this is one sleeper of a lens- I hesitated to buy it, but the dealer, in all honesty said that is one cracking good lens". He was so right- it is tack sharp, and given that it is only F8, even on a reasonable day, with light cloud, It is superb for birds and deer stalking. I shan't sell it !

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Feb 10, 2014 16:37:03   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
JP/Avery wrote:
As I do alot of traveling and like to travel light iv been looking at buying a mirred 800mm lense.i didnt expect much in quality in build or picture when first read about them untill i read a review . The price, size and weight is very appealing.weighing just as much as a canon 24-70.i wanted to know if anyone has used or is using one and what you think of the lense.
Pictured,
Left mirred 800mm, middle sigma 50-500, right canon 600mm
Just to compare the size.
I did not take these photos!
As I do alot of traveling and like to travel light... (show quote)


If you want to travel light, certainly the 800mm lens is your choice, but the image quality will not be close to what a good super-zoom bridge camera will get with much greater versatility. By the way, Is "mirred" your own neologism or an accepted shortcut for "mirrored"?

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Feb 10, 2014 21:09:31   #
WAL
 
I have often thought of buying one of these, I have not done it yet. I have never heard of any one using it after the novelty wore off.

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Feb 10, 2014 21:32:53   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
JP, you probably know more about these lenses than I do.
The problem with manual focus, is the lack of a proper focus screen.
If you buy a mirror lens, it might be advantages for your camera to have live view. If the subject is not moving around, LV on 10x will probably get the job done. If the subjects are moving, at f8, focus may be pretty challenging.
My opinion is that they are probably not as bad IQ wise as they are difficult to use. Trying to get good focus is compounded when you can't stabilize a lens. If you are traveling light, you're not likely to have enough tripod to do the job. At those magnifications, even very SMALL vibrations look like an earthquake in the viewfinder and in Live View. Good luck. ;-)
SS

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Feb 10, 2014 22:16:34   #
JP/Avery Loc: Australia
 
Yes sorry that my own abbreviation.i have looked at msybe buying a canon eos but it felt wrong n the manual setting are to frustrating to use.
bunuweld wrote:
If you want to travel light, certainly the 800mm lens is your choice, but the image quality will not be close to what a good super-zoom bridge camera will get with much greater versatility. By the way, Is "mirred" your own neologism or an accepted shortcut for "mirrored"?

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Feb 10, 2014 22:23:29   #
JP/Avery Loc: Australia
 
When traveling I tend to take a mono bar or a micro pod.but from the response iv recieved I think I might after awhile throw the lense in s lake lol.it is abit of a pain to carry around such a large lense but I might stick to my 100-400 attached to my 7d which i usually use for sports.

quote=SharpShooter]JP, you probably know more about these lenses than I do.
The problem with manual focus, is the lack of a proper focus screen.
If you buy a mirror lens, it might be advantages for your camera to have live view. If the subject is not moving around, LV on 10x will probably get the job done. If the subjects are moving, at f8, focus may be pretty challenging.
My opinion is that they are probably not as bad IQ wise as they are difficult to use. Trying to get good focus is compounded when you can't stabilize a lens. If you are traveling light, you're not likely to have enough tripod to do the job. At those magnifications, even very SMALL vibrations look like an earthquake in the viewfinder and in Live View. Good luck. ;-)
SS[/quote]

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Feb 10, 2014 22:39:27   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
JP/Avery wrote:
i didnt expect much in quality in build or picture when first read about them untill i read a review .

Having read your previous posts, including your defense of using pirated software to "try it out", it's apparent that your most important criteria is price. So go for it, just don't expect quality.
jerryc41 wrote:
This is an Adorama exclusive, and it has gotten decent reviews, considering what it is. It is an F/6.3, compared with most others that are F/8.0.
http://www.adorama.com/PRO50063CA.html


Yes, "considering what it is". Erv and I and probably a few others have this lens and it sits on a shelf.

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Feb 10, 2014 22:57:24   #
JP/Avery Loc: Australia
 
On my defence on the software I didnt know which system to use and what suited me for what i want,so yes i bought one of each to yes"try out" but that was it.as I liked abode light room I went out and bought the proper system to the value of $1500.but ppl got their nickers in a twist and got blinded by what was said about the matter. Cost isnt a issue for me but weight is!

OddJobber wrote:
Yes, "considering what it is". Erv and I and probably a few others have this lens and it sits on a shelf.

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Feb 10, 2014 23:20:35   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
JP/Avery wrote:
I liked abode light room I went out and bought the proper system to the value of $1500.


:?: At $10/month do you plan to use it for 12 1/2 years?

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