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Dec 27, 2011 15:07:54   #
thg3 Loc: La Quinta, California
 
My reference to "Marco" lenses comes from using a Vivitar zoom lens 40 years ago. You could push a button and twist the lens into "Macro" mode which would allow you focus to within about 2 inches and out to infinity using the zoom. So I assumed (we know what that means) that I could get a 50mm Macro lens and get right on top of a bug to get the close up shots we see here. But...

I went to the Canon website and looked up a 50mm Macro lens and noticed that the minimum focal distance is 10.something inches and that the minimum focal distance of my 18-55mm Canon kit lens is 9.something inches - about 1 inch closer than the macro. So, now I have no idea what exactly a macro lens does... What would be the difference in a shot of a bug with a 50mm Macro from 12" away vs. the same shot with my kit lens set at 50mm?

If you have read this far, here is question #2. My camera is a Canon T2i with a APS-C sensor with a 1.6 crop factor. So my other kit lens is a 55-250mm zoom and at 250mm it is supposed to be the same a 400mm (250 x 1.6= 400) on a full frame camera. My question #2 is: would a picture from my camera of, say, an office bldg window at 250mm be the same as the same picture taken with a 400mm lens on a full frame camera?

Maybe my real question is; Are all "mm's" created equal?

Thanks,

Tom

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Dec 27, 2011 15:29:58   #
AvailableLight Loc: NYC skyline out my window...
 
thg3 wrote:
My reference to "Marco" lenses comes from using a Vivitar zoom lens 40 years ago. You could push a button and twist the lens into "Macro" mode which would allow you focus to within about 2 inches and out to infinity using the zoom. So I assumed (we know what that means) that I could get a 50mm Macro lens and get right on top of a bug to get the close up shots we see here. But...

I went to the Canon website and looked up a 50mm Macro lens and noticed that the minimum focal distance is 10.something inches and that the minimum focal distance of my 18-55mm Canon kit lens is 9.something inches - about 1 inch closer than the macro. So, now I have no idea what exactly a macro lens does... What would be the difference in a shot of a bug with a 50mm Macro from 12" away vs. the same shot with my kit lens set at 50mm?

If you have read this far, here is question #2. My camera is a Canon T2i with a APS-C sensor with a 1.6 crop factor. So my other kit lens is a 55-250mm zoom and at 250mm it is supposed to be the same a 400mm (250 x 1.6= 400) on a full frame camera. My question #2 is: would a picture from my camera of, say, an office bldg window at 250mm be the same as the same picture taken with a 400mm lens on a full frame camera?

Maybe my real question is; Are all "mm's" created equal?

Thanks,

Tom
My reference to "Marco" lenses comes fro... (show quote)


In theory... Yes... You got it!... I own Nikon digital and use many lenses... Even the 50mm 1.4 lens and a 35-70mm zoom from a Nikon FM my Dad gave me in the 80's...

This is a 52.5mm to 105mm on my Nikon... My sensor factor is 1.5...
This is a 52.5mm to 105mm on my Nikon... My sensor...

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Dec 27, 2011 15:53:28   #
Bruce H Loc: Oregon Coast
 
thg3 wrote:


If you have read this far, here is question #2. My camera is a Canon T2i with a APS-C sensor with a 1.6 crop factor. So my other kit lens is a 55-250mm zoom and at 250mm it is supposed to be the same a 400mm (250 x 1.6= 400) on a full frame camera. My question #2 is: would a picture from my camera of, say, an office bldg window at 250mm be the same as the same picture taken with a 400mm lens on a full frame camera?


Thanks,

Tom


Answer: no,

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Dec 27, 2011 15:56:47   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
have you gave thought to Extension Tubes for Macro Photos. http://www.shutterfreaks.com/Tips/ExtensionTube.htm i like mine three pieces used it twice used it on fly drinking milk fly moved back an had big bubble it was still eating an the hairs on it's legs

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Dec 27, 2011 15:57:04   #
snowbear
 
thg3 wrote:
So, now I have no idea what exactly a macro lens does... What would be the difference in a shot of a bug with a 50mm Macro from 12" away vs. the same shot with my kit lens set at 50mm?
Macro means the image on the sensor (or frame of film) is at the same size (1:1) as the object in real life. The minimum focus distance can be decreased with extension tubes.

thg3 wrote:
would a picture from my camera of, say, an office bldg window at 250mm be the same as the same picture taken with a 400mm lens on a full frame camera?
The short answer is "no". The cropped sensor captures the center portion of the image circle projected by a full-frame lens, so it will look different - it will appear to have been taken with a longer lens. The focal length does not change because of the sensor size, you are only looking at a smaller piece of the image.

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Dec 27, 2011 16:40:42   #
sunsacre Loc: Western Minnesota
 
Charlie, love your signature :)

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Dec 27, 2011 16:41:11   #
AvailableLight Loc: NYC skyline out my window...
 
AvailableLight wrote:
thg3 wrote:
My reference to "Marco" lenses comes from using a Vivitar zoom lens 40 years ago. You could push a button and twist the lens into "Macro" mode which would allow you focus to within about 2 inches and out to infinity using the zoom. So I assumed (we know what that means) that I could get a 50mm Macro lens and get right on top of a bug to get the close up shots we see here. But...

I went to the Canon website and looked up a 50mm Macro lens and noticed that the minimum focal distance is 10.something inches and that the minimum focal distance of my 18-55mm Canon kit lens is 9.something inches - about 1 inch closer than the macro. So, now I have no idea what exactly a macro lens does... What would be the difference in a shot of a bug with a 50mm Macro from 12" away vs. the same shot with my kit lens set at 50mm?

If you have read this far, here is question #2. My camera is a Canon T2i with a APS-C sensor with a 1.6 crop factor. So my other kit lens is a 55-250mm zoom and at 250mm it is supposed to be the same a 400mm (250 x 1.6= 400) on a full frame camera. My question #2 is: would a picture from my camera of, say, an office bldg window at 250mm be the same as the same picture taken with a 400mm lens on a full frame camera?

Maybe my real question is; Are all "mm's" created equal?

Thanks,

Tom
My reference to "Marco" lenses comes fro... (show quote)


In theory... Yes... You got it!... I own Nikon digital and use many lenses... Even the 50mm 1.4 lens and a 35-70mm zoom from a Nikon FM my Dad gave me in the 80's...
quote=thg3 My reference to "Marco" lens... (show quote)


I was wrong here... I thought he was using a film designed lens from an old camera... Not a kit lens designed for his camera...

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Dec 27, 2011 17:37:41   #
AK Dreamer Loc: Alaska & Nevada
 
You may want to go to the search bar on this site and pull up some of Nikonian's posts on this subject. The subject has been posted numerous times and he really has a good textbook explanations on the subject.

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Dec 28, 2011 03:29:57   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
FAQ: What is a MACRO lens?
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user_page.jsp?upnum=108

FAQ: Macro lenses vs Prime & Zoom lenses
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user_page.jsp?upnum=239

FAQ: Macro websites & free literature
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user_page.jsp?upnum=247

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Dec 28, 2011 12:24:17   #
thg3 Loc: La Quinta, California
 
Thank you all for your replies...

Let me ask another question - on full frame cameras, would a 400mm Canon lens capture the same (or very close to the same) image as a 400mm Nikon (or any other make)?

Thanks,

Tom

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Dec 29, 2011 21:54:02   #
NikonJohn Loc: Indiana U.S.A.
 
thg3 wrote:
Thank you all for your replies...

Let me ask another question - on full frame cameras, would a 400mm Canon lens capture the same (or very close to the same) image as a 400mm Nikon (or any other make)?

Thanks,

Tom


In a word, yes. :)

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Dec 30, 2011 02:41:54   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
NikonJohn wrote:
In a word, yes

What he said!

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Dec 30, 2011 10:13:07   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
cheapiest macro homemade and works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGdE15Qj3iA

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Dec 30, 2011 10:16:36   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
thg3 wrote:
My reference to "Marco" lenses comes from using a Vivitar zoom lens 40 years ago. You could push a button and twist the lens into "Macro" mode which would allow you focus to within about 2 inches and out to infinity using the zoom. So I assumed (we know what that means) that I could get a 50mm Macro lens and get right on top of a bug to get the close up shots we see here. But...

I went to the Canon website and looked up a 50mm Macro lens and noticed that the minimum focal distance is 10.something inches and that the minimum focal distance of my 18-55mm Canon kit lens is 9.something inches - about 1 inch closer than the macro. So, now I have no idea what exactly a macro lens does... What would be the difference in a shot of a bug with a 50mm Macro from 12" away vs. the same shot with my kit lens set at 50mm?

If you have read this far, here is question #2. My camera is a Canon T2i with a APS-C sensor with a 1.6 crop factor. So my other kit lens is a 55-250mm zoom and at 250mm it is supposed to be the same a 400mm (250 x 1.6= 400) on a full frame camera. My question #2 is: would a picture from my camera of, say, an office bldg window at 250mm be the same as the same picture taken with a 400mm lens on a full frame camera?

Maybe my real question is; Are all "mm's" created equal?

Thanks,

Tom
My reference to "Marco" lenses comes fro... (show quote)


only the red ones

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