No photo today need some help from manual lens shooters, Kiron etc.
Jan 24, 2014 11:00:49 #
I have just gotten in all the parts to shoot with a flash mounted on a bracket and softbox to retire my sunpak ring light. I have a Nissin Di622 iTTL flash that can be set to Manual.
Bottom line the flash will not fire without an automatic lens mounted on my Nikon D90. It will not allow the shutter to fire on the Nikon. My Sunpak ring light has no such problem.
I believe I have isolated the problem to the flash and have written to Nissin to inquire about their firmware update. I guess I just wanted to Rant a bit but others may have figured out a work around on the Nikon to fool the blasted thing that the lens is an auto lens....
I guess this is a warning for those looking at buying a Nissin for macro work with a manual lens.
I may have to spring for a Nikon Speedlight or the Yongnuo. Any one use the Yongnuo with a manual lens on the Nikon?
Bottom line the flash will not fire without an automatic lens mounted on my Nikon D90. It will not allow the shutter to fire on the Nikon. My Sunpak ring light has no such problem.
I believe I have isolated the problem to the flash and have written to Nissin to inquire about their firmware update. I guess I just wanted to Rant a bit but others may have figured out a work around on the Nikon to fool the blasted thing that the lens is an auto lens....
I guess this is a warning for those looking at buying a Nissin for macro work with a manual lens.
I may have to spring for a Nikon Speedlight or the Yongnuo. Any one use the Yongnuo with a manual lens on the Nikon?
Jan 24, 2014 11:17:11 #
Have you tried the manual setting on your Nissin? That's what I use on my Yongnuo (it's actually non-iTTL).
Jan 24, 2014 11:30:49 #
Yes, I turn the TTL off. I also lower the power output to the lowest setting. Still will not allow the shutter to fire the Nikon. It is not that it does not fire. It does something the Nikon can't handle. the Sunpac has no smarts at all as far as I know. It was for a dental rig for film cameras and I ordered the proper base module recommended by Sunpac for Digital Nikons. Works great
on the D90 without doing any menu settings.
on the D90 without doing any menu settings.
Jan 24, 2014 18:28:49 #
Jan 24, 2014 18:41:23 #
jbmauser wrote:
Hot shoe mounted, or Sync cord?Yes, I turn the TTL off. I also lower the power output to the lowest setting. Still will not allow the shutter to fire the Nikon. It is not that it does not fire. It does something the Nikon can't handle. the Sunpac has no smarts at all as far as I know. It was for a dental rig for film cameras and I ordered the proper base module recommended by Sunpac for Digital Nikons. Works great
on the D90 without doing any menu settings.
on the D90 without doing any menu settings.
Jan 24, 2014 19:06:00 #
Either way, mounted on the camera or on the extension iTTl aftermarket cable.
Jan 24, 2014 19:11:25 #
Nass, I am sure it can be used as a slave but my goal to provide a off camera light coming down at 11:00 for macro shots shots at 6 in. from the lens would be defeated with another flash (on camera flash) to fire the slave. I may just have to get another flash and this one could be retired as a slave but I am not into multi light portraits now. Good Macro is more than enough to chew on right now. Thanks for the suggestion, I will keep it in mind.
Jan 25, 2014 08:00:37 #
lovitlots
Loc: Tottenham, Ontario, Canada
Did you try the flash mounted on camera and you non automatic lens?
Jan 25, 2014 09:06:57 #
Yes, it does not fire with the Kiron 105mm and it will not allow the Nikon shutter to release.
Jan 25, 2014 10:04:17 #
Tape over all but the center contact on the hot shoe & shoot in manual mode. I had this problem with older Lester Dine ring lights that had the Nikon TTL foot & the only way to get around it was to tape over the extra contacts. Got another Lester Dine ring light with the "standard" foot & had no such problems.... The camera is expecting info from the extra contacts & the info a TTL foot is giving isn't what the iTTL shoe is wanting...Let me know if this works for you, but I'm fairly certain it will...BTW, I have three functioning Sunpak made ring/point lights & one non functioning one for parts. The Sunpack units are more versatile than the Nissan. Oh, most any tape will work. I used regular old"Scotch" brand tape
Jan 25, 2014 10:06:22 #
lovitlots
Loc: Tottenham, Ontario, Canada
I have a Sony camera and it has a setting that says "shutter release without lens". Does the Nikon have a similar setting?if so try that.
Jan 25, 2014 10:14:55 #
lovitlots wrote:
Nikon isn't set to shoot like that... It's a setting found on Panasonic mirrorless cameras as well.I have a Sony camera and it has a setting that says "shutter release without lens". Does the Nikon have a similar setting?if so try that.
Jan 25, 2014 10:28:47 #
jbmauser wrote:
Just thought of one other possibility (after you try Scott's taping suggestion, which is a good one): Do you have your camera set to AF "release" or AF "focus"? Not sure how this works on the D90-- but the camera may be looking for info from the lens in order to release the shutter-- information that is not there.(Camera) does not fire with the Kiron 105mm and it will not allow the Nikon shutter to release.
Jan 25, 2014 11:21:31 #
The tape over the smart points did not work. The Flash did not operate but the shutter did fire. The Flash seemed to have a hissy fit when I set it to manual and the power setting LEDs flashed constantly on any setting when they usually just glow. It was a good idea. It must be something in the flash smarts or should I say mischief.
I have some older flashes that were from AF film days. I will look up the voltage issue again and try any that are low enough for digital. I don't remember what the threshold pin voltage is but I know it is low.
Thanks for all your ideas, it has made me consider many more options.
I have some older flashes that were from AF film days. I will look up the voltage issue again and try any that are low enough for digital. I don't remember what the threshold pin voltage is but I know it is low.
Thanks for all your ideas, it has made me consider many more options.
Jan 25, 2014 11:27:20 #
Assuming you have a multimeter to check the trigger voltage. Nikon says OK up to 250 volts but no negative voltage...If you are unsure, use a Wein "Safe Sync"...
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