Have finally got rid of the "paper" rolls of background for inside shot. I would like to get both black and white material to hang but not too sure what material to look for. I have been to fabric stores and they suggest a "velvet" but I have to consider storing it without too much creasing. I had purchased from a camera shop a blue backdrop curtain, but could never get the creases out of it. Ironed, steamed and hung it for days, but my pictures always showed the folds and creases. Any suggestions.
First, store the material on a roll.
Then, more separation between subject & background so the background is out of focus.
Wahawk wrote:
First, store the material on a roll.
Then, more separation between subject & background so the background is out of focus.
I have done that. I had a 12 foot bar on my stand and after trying to get the sheet clean of creases I carefully rolled it and put it back on the stand for a few weeks. The material was folded a "100" times from the store but never came clean. My subjects were about 10-12 feet from the curtain but the results were just not usable....that's why I bought a paper roll but carrying that around is "for the birds".
why would you move from seamless paper to fabric? dealing with wrinkles is a pain in are butt and not correcting them in post is a sign of a fauxtogher in the making.
If you are a traveling studio, I would rather deal with carrying a roll of seamless than spending untold time at the computer editing out wrinkles.
The 'best material' is still paint, black paint, matte. You can do whatever you want after that and do not need to bother with anything but light afterward. As to the floor/wall. Seamless (curved) and black. Floor needs to be painted often, not washed.
paulw
Loc: nottinghamshire
check out e bay, reversible black and white vinyl backgrounds , comes on aluminium tube just wipe clean, no more creases
why not use a roll of lino (type used on the kitchen floor. ) you have a color on the smooth side and the back can be painted by you with a textured surface. works for me
georgeretired wrote:
Have finally got rid of the "paper" rolls of background for inside shot. I would like to get both black and white material to hang but not too sure what material to look for. I have been to fabric stores and they suggest a "velvet" but I have to consider storing it without too much creasing. I had purchased from a camera shop a blue backdrop curtain, but could never get the creases out of it. Ironed, steamed and hung it for days, but my pictures always showed the folds and creases. Any suggestions.
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Per the advice of the seller of my cloth backdrops, I never fold my backdrops. I wad them up in a big ball and keep them in a bag. With the model six feet away, I generally don't have an issue with the backdrop.
georgeretired wrote:
Have finally got rid of the "paper" rolls of background for inside shot. I would like to get both black and white material to hang but not too sure what material to look for. I have been to fabric stores and they suggest a "velvet" but I have to consider storing it without too much creasing. I had purchased from a camera shop a blue backdrop curtain, but could never get the creases out of it. Ironed, steamed and hung it for days, but my pictures always showed the folds and creases. Any suggestions.
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georgeretired,
A good choice of material is Muslin, you will not see unwanted hot spots from the material caused by strobes. You purchase it in wide rolls, and if there happen to be any wrinkles have a commercial Cleaner steam press the whole roll, like a bed sheet.
Placing the model 6 feet in front of the backdrop, and using a low f/stop will insure the background will be in soft focus to hide any other defects.
Michael G
Depends on what you want--but talk to the lady in the fabric store and ask to see wrinkle free knit--works great--on eBay you can get a steamer for about $50.
Stan
georgeretired wrote:
Have finally got rid of the "paper" rolls of background for inside shot. I would like to get both black and white material to hang but not too sure what material to look for. I have been to fabric stores and they suggest a "velvet" but I have to consider storing it without too much creasing. I had purchased from a camera shop a blue backdrop curtain, but could never get the creases out of it. Ironed, steamed and hung it for days, but my pictures always showed the folds and creases. Any suggestions.
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Check a company like Denny manufacturing or Chicago Canvas for background options. The Ball up muslin seems best, even with a "painted" pattern on it.
My confession: I was a "kidnapper" in the midwest in the early '70's, and in a different store and town everyday. Our backdrops were indoor/outdoor carpet. They were basically neutral grey with a very mild abstract pattern. With our background lights we could blast it into being white, no light to make it black, but I usually used it graduated. No wrinkles, durable, and portable.
Thanks everyone for the ideas and suggestions on the backdrop issues. I knew Muslin was a choice but never got any...which now will send me that way to look at their selections. Cowboy Studio seems to have a good selection if I look outside of local companies.
See what I can do and will post a picture using an idea or material the group has suggested.
Thanks Again
George
georgeretired wrote:
Have finally got rid of the "paper" rolls of background for inside shot. I would like to get both black and white material to hang but not too sure what material to look for. I have been to fabric stores and they suggest a "velvet" but I have to consider storing it without too much creasing. I had purchased from a camera shop a blue backdrop curtain, but could never get the creases out of it. Ironed, steamed and hung it for days, but my pictures always showed the folds and creases. Any suggestions.
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Well....I have a few questions.
Why do you want to hang black since white can be black, grey, or white depending on how much light you put on it vs your exposure?
Second: why get the wrinkles out? You won't be seeing your backdrop clearly...hopefully you will have enough distance from the subject vs the distance to the backdrop to blur the heck out of it...
Which brings me to another question...why have a backdrop at all? Can you paint a wall? Or do you have a white painted wall?
Not dissing you but you can do a LOT with just a white sheet, white paper or nothing at all.
georgeretired wrote:
I have done that. I had a 12 foot bar on my stand and after trying to get the sheet clean of creases I carefully rolled it and put it back on the stand for a few weeks. The material was folded a "100" times from the store but never came clean. My subjects were about 10-12 feet from the curtain but the results were just not usable....that's why I bought a paper roll but carrying that around is "for the birds".
Seamless paper isn't meant to be reused.
If it gets dirty or wrinkled, you tear off the offending section and toss it.
And, if you could see the wrinkles, then you're shooting with WAY too high an
f stop number.
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