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Jan 22, 2014 22:35:25   #
waykee7 Loc: Cortez, Colorado
 
Jambulee wrote:
Out of focus. with an shutter speed that fast you wont have motion blur on this subject. With such a shallow DOF you have to be right on.


I agree with jambulee, at 1/320 of a second, the suspended water should be in focus and certainly the movement of the child would be STOPPED. It's hard to get a good focus on a moving child!

Nice pics though. . . I like the idea of splashing in puddles
Wayne Keene

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Jan 23, 2014 11:37:04   #
fotohouse Loc: Northern Illinois
 
boberic wrote:
You didn't say what lens you used. if it is one of the lenses in your listing then 1/320 shutter speed were more than enough to overcome any but the most violent camera shake. Has to b OOF.


This is true, however nothing seems to be in focus, nada. look at the road surface at all distances it seems to be soft. If it is not camera shake, I don't know the OP's technique, then something should appear to be in focus. Other option is it just needs some sharpening but I am not that familiar with Canon images and how the camera processes them. I know OOC KM/Sony images are usually a bit on the soft side unless you up the sharpening in camera, but I shoot mostly raw so I do not worry about it until post.

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Jan 23, 2014 11:52:10   #
fotohouse Loc: Northern Illinois
 
Okay, further thoughts bring more questions.

Were you tracking here movement prior to the shot?

If so the overall blur could have been from some movement and the main subject being OOF could be just missed focus. It happens, especially if she was running towards you (hardest movement for the AF to keep up with) With this as has already been mentioned a bit of flash to "freeze" the movement would help but only if the focus was also on. I also would probably go to f8 for a shot like this to expand the window of what is in focus.

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Jan 27, 2014 10:43:50   #
eospaddy Loc: Liverpool UK
 
Jambulee wrote:
Out of focus. with an shutter speed that fast you wont have motion blur on this subject. With such a shallow DOF you have to be right on.


i think you are right, maybe he could use servo mode to help lock focus on a moving subject !

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Jan 28, 2014 00:29:28   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
Just curious about something.

Were you using the eye piece with elbows tucked? Or the live view with arms extended?

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Jan 28, 2014 05:43:51   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
canadiaman wrote:
Is there a trick to deciding motion blur vs. out of focus? I think I may have just needed a faster shutter speed. These were both taken at 1/320. The first is F 5.6. The second is F 4.5. They were taken on a 5D mark ii. Thoughts?


It's both got a slight bit of motion blur in the moving parts but it also appears that you missed focus by quite a bit. The house behind her is more in focus than her face is.

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Jan 28, 2014 12:50:53   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
Flyextreme wrote:
Just curious about something.

Were you using the eye piece with elbows tucked? Or the live view with arms extended?


Also, the air looks very damp. Any possibility the lens had a slight bit of moisture on it?...condensation perhapes?

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Feb 20, 2014 19:09:55   #
willaim Loc: Sunny Southern California
 
Doesn't look like motion blur at such a fast shutter speed. Background looks a bit sharper which makes me think you used the one shot focus instead of Al Focus or Al Servo which will track and follow focus. Cute picture of what little kids like to do when they see a puddle.

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Feb 21, 2014 00:21:23   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
canadiaman wrote:
Is there a trick to deciding motion blur vs. out of focus? I think I may have just needed a faster shutter speed. These were both taken at 1/320. The first is F 5.6. The second is F 4.5. They were taken on a 5D mark ii. Thoughts?


Focus. I did something like this when I had turned off autofocus from a previous shoot. Looked ok until I unloaded..... In addition, 1/320 seems plenty fast for action coming at you.

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Feb 21, 2014 16:30:57   #
Ceil Loc: St. Paul, MN
 
Another consideration is the narrow depth of field. With people focus has to be on the eyes.

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Feb 26, 2014 13:36:51   #
bob_71 Loc: Severna Park, MD
 
The 5D Mark II has had ongoing focus issues since it's release. I have owned two...the second was a replacement for the first, courtesy of the retailer. Neither camera would attain focus while mounted on a sturdy Manfrotto tripod using a Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens while saving in highest quality JPEG. Shot in RAW, they were fine suggesting a software problem existed in the conversion by the camera to JPEG. It worked fine in JPEG with a 70-200mm f/4.0 without Image Stabilization. There are many reviews relevant to focus issue problems with this camera. I suggest that you might have equipment problems made worse by hand created motion blur. Try pushing the ISO up as high as needed to shoot at a shutter speed of 1/1000 and test under similar conditions. You are not looking at NOISE issues, so evaluate your results for sharpness and see if that helps. You might be surprised at what the higher shutter speeds will do. You need to determine whether you have a blur problem or a camera problem, then fix it. My lens had the IS feature turned off while tripod mounted.

My best wishes for your quick success!

Bob

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Feb 28, 2014 12:43:14   #
liv2paddle Loc: Wall, NJ
 
Not sure what your settings are but when shooting children in motion use AF-C continuous and especially when they turn toward you..I now have my D7100 set to AF-c release mode all the time and use back button focus ..when things are stationary I hit the backbutton for focus and take it off and recompose. I never have to switch into AF-s that way. two children makes you adjust quickly..lol

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