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Jan 9, 2014 20:55:29   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
I don't know if this as been posted before and any case something to think about !!!

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:


From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."


The Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2014
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in
St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning
the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 Romney: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 Romney: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase..

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal’s - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.



Pass this along to help everyone realize and understand just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom..

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Jan 10, 2014 08:13:07   #
Singing Swan
 
These things are not really going to make a difference. The fall of our economy and way of life began before we were born. You can't stop stupid and electing different people won't change anything either. They all have the same agenda once they get in office, and it makes no difference whether they are Democrat or Republican or Martian....... government has a life of it's own and it will have to die before it can be reborn from the ashes as something new and different.... notice I did not say better.

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Jan 10, 2014 08:46:33   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
I guess you must be right , but if a government as a life of it's own and will have to die , WE better die too 'cause we elect theses morons, so? what's to do ?

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Jan 10, 2014 08:53:54   #
dzs1945 Loc: Lancaster, Pa
 
A lot of truth in that article. It can be reversed. For EVERY organization to succeed there HAS to be renewal. Once that stops it's on the death spiral weather it's a church, club or whatever. PERIOD!

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Jan 10, 2014 11:10:50   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Singing Swan wrote:
These things are not really going to make a difference. The fall of our economy and way of life began before we were born. You can't stop stupid and electing different people won't change anything either. They all have the same agenda once they get in office, and it makes no difference whether they are Democrat or Republican or Martian....... government has a life of it's own and it will have to die before it can be reborn from the ashes as something new and different.... notice I did not say better.
These things are not really going to make a differ... (show quote)


Now that makes sense. I have not voted for a democrat or a republican based on their party affiliation for years. There is no difference between the parties, they both are working toward the same goal, just from different directions.

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Jan 10, 2014 22:40:08   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
FRENCHY wrote:
I don't know if this as been posted before and any case something to think about !!!

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:


From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."


The Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2014
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in
St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning
the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 Romney: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 Romney: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase..

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal’s - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.



Pass this along to help everyone realize and understand just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom..
I don't know if this as been posted before and any... (show quote)



This post is a load of crap. See snopes.com. Been floating around for 15 years, changing the names occasionally.

Some of the facts are outright wrong.

Sounds like something bcheary would post.

It is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

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Jan 10, 2014 23:10:34   #
Singing Swan
 
FRENCHY wrote:
I guess you must be right , but if a government as a life of it's own and will have to die , WE better die too 'cause we elect theses morons, so? what's to do ?
Revolution.

There are millions of us and only few of them. It can be a quiet revolution where we all make decisions that will change the way we live and the way we consume and work etc, or it can be a loud and messy revolution, but that's what it will take.

When New Orleans was hit and tragedy was on our doorstep, how many people were there, willing and ready to help, to make changes, to rebuild the city so the inhabitants could return? And then how many of those people were forced to go back home because they were not authorized to be there. I understand safety measures, but I also understand what that help would have meant to a lot of people if it hadn't been tied up with bureaucracy and red tape.

The same holds true for a lot of other areas in our country. We sit back and allow the government to say you must do this and you must do that. Again, I see the need for order and regulations, but I don't see the need for things like this health care system the government is trying to establish. From my point of view, no one but insurance companies will benefit from this. How do we stand up to things like this and say no? I really don't know.... but my mind thinks 'revolution'

Electing different officials is like the little boy with his finger in the dike and it isn't going to withstand much more pressure before the working class citizens break. Each official has a short term, but they are still there long enough to keep the pot stirred and the waters murky. They say they'll make changes, but as I said earlier, government has a life of it's own and once a politician takes office, he has to deal with the problems already in existence. That doesn't give them much time or leeway to bring things to a screeching halt and move in a new direction. Talk about chaos!!

So, it can be a messy revolution where we sit here and air our differences and sling mud like the big guys do, or we can quietly and definitively make changes in our own lives and in our own communities that will reach out and infect others with change. Anything bigger than your own community becomes cumbersome with too many cooks to spoil the broth, but change must come.

People who are out of work and see no hope of change on the horizon are not happy. When jobs and livelihood go to foreign countries and we send more aid to our enemies than we give our own hungry children, then change must come. I sense an undercurrent of unrest in this country in many different ways. I see it in the papers and I see it from different people from different walks of life and different income levels. I see revolution on our horizon but whether the outcome will be good for anyone when the dust settles remains to be seen.

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Jan 10, 2014 23:54:19   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Twardlow wrote:
This post is a load of crap. See snopes.com. Been floating around for 15 years, changing the names occasionally.

Some of the facts are outright wrong.

Sounds like something bcheary would post.

It is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.


True or not it is right on the mark. The country is falling under it own debt. You just cant keep spending money to buy votes when we are so deep in debt any moron can see that. What other direction can we go if we keep this up.

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Jan 13, 2014 10:37:36   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Singing Swan wrote:
Revolution.

There are millions of us and only few of them. It can be a quiet revolution where we all make decisions that will change the way we live and the way we consume and work etc, or it can be a loud and messy revolution, but that's what it will take.

When New Orleans was hit and tragedy was on our doorstep, how many people were there, willing and ready to help, to make changes, to rebuild the city so the inhabitants could return? And then how many of those people were forced to go back home because they were not authorized to be there. I understand safety measures, but I also understand what that help would have meant to a lot of people if it hadn't been tied up with bureaucracy and red tape.

The same holds true for a lot of other areas in our country. We sit back and allow the government to say you must do this and you must do that. Again, I see the need for order and regulations, but I don't see the need for things like this health care system the government is trying to establish. From my point of view, no one but insurance companies will benefit from this. How do we stand up to things like this and say no? I really don't know.... but my mind thinks 'revolution'

Electing different officials is like the little boy with his finger in the dike and it isn't going to withstand much more pressure before the working class citizens break. Each official has a short term, but they are still there long enough to keep the pot stirred and the waters murky. They say they'll make changes, but as I said earlier, government has a life of it's own and once a politician takes office, he has to deal with the problems already in existence. That doesn't give them much time or leeway to bring things to a screeching halt and move in a new direction. Talk about chaos!!

So, it can be a messy revolution where we sit here and air our differences and sling mud like the big guys do, or we can quietly and definitively make changes in our own lives and in our own communities that will reach out and infect others with change. Anything bigger than your own community becomes cumbersome with too many cooks to spoil the broth, but change must come.

People who are out of work and see no hope of change on the horizon are not happy. When jobs and livelihood go to foreign countries and we send more aid to our enemies than we give our own hungry children, then change must come. I sense an undercurrent of unrest in this country in many different ways. I see it in the papers and I see it from different people from different walks of life and different income levels. I see revolution on our horizon but whether the outcome will be good for anyone when the dust settles remains to be seen.
Revolution. br br There are millions of us and o... (show quote)


Nicely stated. Certainly something to think about.

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Jan 13, 2014 10:38:06   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Hal81 wrote:
True or not it is right on the mark. The country is falling under it own debt. You just cant keep spending money to buy votes when we are so deep in debt any moron can see that. What other direction can we go if we keep this up.


Absolutely correct!

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Jan 14, 2014 08:13:32   #
Singing Swan
 
Penny MG wrote:
Nicely stated. Certainly something to think about.

Ah, but where is our Patrick Henry?? ehh??

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