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Jan 7, 2014 08:54:18   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
Have you noticed the number of times "income inequality" has been in the news over the past week or two? It certainly seems like the left's new hot button to try to take the spotlight off of Obamacare.

I have a question, though, and that is this --

Is there any fundamental difference between the slogan "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and the current cry for solutions to income inequality?

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Jan 7, 2014 09:08:22   #
Indepen
 
Your comment neglects the fact that industry pushed the idea of higher education or learned trades, and then exported jobs overseas leaving the folks who bought into the higher education/good paying jobs only to be left having to take lesser paying jobs while paying off expensive tuition bills and struggling to keep afloat of rising costs, expensive health care, etc.
But I expect your one of those far right religious conservatives who simply don't care about those who are struggling through no fault of their own.

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Jan 7, 2014 09:19:44   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Got some facts to back up that claim about industry?....I don't think so & before you go saying I'm a religious zealot, know that I am not in any way that. Don't go to church, except for weddings & funerals, but do live by the basic tenants...
bbq4270 wrote:
Your comment neglects the fact that industry pushed the idea of higher education or learned trades, and then exported jobs overseas leaving the folks who bought into the higher education/good paying jobs only to be left having to take lesser paying jobs while paying off expensive tuition bills and struggling to keep afloat of rising costs, expensive health care, etc.
But I expect your one of those far right religious conservatives who simply don't care about those who are struggling through no fault of their own.
Your comment neglects the fact that industry pushe... (show quote)

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Jan 7, 2014 09:26:57   #
surfshoptom
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:

Is there any fundamental difference between the slogan "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and the current cry for solutions to income inequality?


the fundamental difference is not between you and me or him and her. it's not about the guy who makes $100K. it's about the CEO that make 400 times what his workers make. it's about the top 1% whose incomes continue to rise at a 20% rate while everyone else struggles to keep a job or find a job at a decent wage. it's about corporations that pay no income tax and upper management who pay a smaller percentage than their secretaries. it's about legal corruption when our representatives work for their top campaign contributors instead of the folks that voted for them. it's not about left or right - it's about all of them.

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Jan 7, 2014 09:33:47   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I have not noticed any attempt by the left to deflect the positive effects of OBamacare but have noticed the new cry by the right that al qaeda successes in Iraq are a result of OBama pulling out the troops. Of course, the right fails to mention that it was Bush/Cheney their heros who negotiated that treaty!

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Jan 7, 2014 09:35:28   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Smaller percentage but much larger dollar amount... Don't forget that about half of all the citizens in our country pay no income taxes & a good number of them still get money back thru the earned income credit. Look, I agree that the top CEO's make too much compared to the lay person. That said, it's up to the shareholders & the companies Boards of Directors to fix this inequality, not the government...We wouldn't have half of the problems we have today if the Feds would just pass decent jobs bills, not government funded alternatives.

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Jan 7, 2014 09:37:13   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
So, Sarg, Obama has no standing in the matter?...If it was a bad policy, why did he continue it? Just because the previous administration did?
ole sarg wrote:
I have not noticed any attempt by the left to deflect the positive effects of OBamacare but have noticed the new cry by the right that al qaeda successes in Iraq are a result of OBama pulling out the troops. Of course, the right fails to mention that it was Bush/Cheney their heros who negotiated that treaty!

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Jan 7, 2014 09:51:23   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
bbq4270 wrote:
Your comment neglects the fact that industry pushed the idea of higher education or learned trades, and then exported jobs overseas leaving the folks who bought into the higher education/good paying jobs only to be left having to take lesser paying jobs while paying off expensive tuition bills and struggling to keep afloat of rising costs, expensive health care, etc.
But I expect your one of those far right religious conservatives who simply don't care about those who are struggling through no fault of their own.
Your comment neglects the fact that industry pushe... (show quote)


Say What? So rather than buy the the people's vote with the US treasury maybe our government should reconstruct the tariff systems to protect our markets... Now I don't advocate this and I am sure that as soon as shortages of goods and skyrocketing prices filter through the economy that people would become uneasy with the decision to close our markets...

Now it is also popular for liberals to take this US v Big Corporations while somehow neglecting the largest force in our economy for job creation, the small business, just keep pretending that they can survive anything thrown at them and see where that gets us. Dems are doing nothing more than using the treasury and regulation on business to appeal to the masses in this country.... we are beginning to look a lot like Rome.

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Jan 7, 2014 11:12:08   #
tom kf4wol
 
Life has no Remote Control, if One does not like their Station in Life get up and change it...

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Jan 7, 2014 11:57:54   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
bbq4270 wrote:
Your comment neglects the fact that industry pushed the idea of higher education or learned trades, and then exported jobs overseas leaving the folks who bought into the higher education/good paying jobs only to be left having to take lesser paying jobs while paying off expensive tuition bills and struggling to keep afloat of rising costs, expensive health care, etc.
But I expect your one of those far right religious conservatives who simply don't care about those who are struggling through no fault of their own.
Your comment neglects the fact that industry pushe... (show quote)


Are you attacking the questioner because you don't have an answer? Is there any fundamental difference between the slogan "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and the current cry for solutions to income inequality?

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Jan 8, 2014 06:21:13   #
Randolph Loc: Medway, UK
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Smaller percentage but much larger dollar amount... Don't forget that about half of all the citizens in our country pay no income taxes & a good number of them still get money back thru the earned income credit. Look, I agree that the top CEO's make too much compared to the lay person. That said, it's up to the shareholders & the companies Boards of Directors to fix this inequality, not the government...We wouldn't have half of the problems we have today if the Feds would just pass decent jobs bills, not government funded alternatives.
Smaller percentage but much larger dollar amount..... (show quote)


Boards of Directors to fix this inequality? You must be joking! It's The old boys network looking after themselves. Certainly in the UK.

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Jan 8, 2014 06:26:28   #
dakotacheryl Loc: Near Mt Rushmore
 
OK...here's my first post to UHH.

I get tired of the "income inequality" talk, when personal choice is not addressed. How about graduating from High School. Not getting pregnant out of wedlock. Getting training for a CAREER?? Not just college, but trade school too. We will always need welders, and plumbers, and carpenters etc. Get a college diploma that's useful for an actual JOB.

I hate it when people act like their future doesn't depend on the choices they make. I know that life changing events can happen...but for crying out loud...

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Jan 8, 2014 07:02:43   #
ohallboyz Loc: Boston, MA
 
dakotacheryl wrote:
OK...here's my first post to UHH.

I get tired of the "income inequality" talk, when personal choice is not addressed. How about graduating from High School. Not getting pregnant out of wedlock. Getting training for a CAREER?? Not just college, but trade school too. We will always need welders, and plumbers, and carpenters etc. Get a college diploma that's useful for an actual JOB.

I hate it when people act like their future doesn't depend on the choices they make. I know that life changing events can happen...but for crying out loud...
OK...here's my first post to UHH. br br I get tir... (show quote)




I have a BA in Accounting. Now, because masters degrees are the "in" thing, employers are requiring a masters just for staff accountant jobs. All other jobs have been slashed in pay and I might be lucky to get a job as a bookkeeper or maybe an office manager somewhere. I found a job online recently for an office manager/accountant that I qualified for and the pay was half of what I was making 10 years ago.

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Jan 8, 2014 07:33:05   #
GeneB Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Smaller percentage but much larger dollar amount... Don't forget that about half of all the citizens in our country pay no income taxes & a good number of them still get money back thru the earned income credit. Look, I agree that the top CEO's make too much compared to the lay person. That said, it's up to the shareholders & the companies Boards of Directors to fix this inequality, not the government...We wouldn't have half of the problems we have today if the Feds would just pass decent jobs bills, not government funded alternatives.
Smaller percentage but much larger dollar amount..... (show quote)


you are right and we know that will not happen.

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Jan 8, 2014 07:35:16   #
GeneB Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
 
dakotacheryl wrote:
OK...here's my first post to UHH.

I get tired of the "income inequality" talk, when personal choice is not addressed. How about graduating from High School. Not getting pregnant out of wedlock. Getting training for a CAREER?? Not just college, but trade school too. We will always need welders, and plumbers, and carpenters etc. Get a college diploma that's useful for an actual JOB.

I hate it when people act like their future doesn't depend on the choices they make. I know that life changing events can happen...but for crying out loud...
OK...here's my first post to UHH. br br I get tir... (show quote)


:thumbup:

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