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Dec 30, 2013 16:46:52   #
Old Boots Loc: Caldwell Co., Texas
 
Putting this here because its a one shot HDR rather than a true HDR. Before and after, feel free to adjust and/or comment on either.

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Dec 30, 2013 17:04:19   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
The HDR is obviously over cooked. But you got to start somewhere. Personally, I don't think that this photo needs any HDR, just contrast and exposure adjustments to bring out the richness & highlights. Then remove the wires and you are good to go. The banding might also disappear.

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Dec 30, 2013 17:15:26   #
ziggykor Loc: East Texas
 
I agree with the comments of tainkc, this is just way over done. Tone mapping can be done to bring out details and textures making the image have greater impact, or it can be over done. Guess what, we have all gone a bit over the top as we learned to find our way.

Beyond the obvious I'd ask why you didn't move a bit closer to the tank and eliminate the fence and fencepost from the scene. One simple rule of thumb to use is this: if an element doesn't add to the actual subject of the scene eliminate it. Simplicity is the strongest method of composition. Additionally, a move to your right or left might have eliminated those wires above the break in the trees.

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Dec 30, 2013 18:00:46   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
is that a gun barrel gaurding the water barrel.

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Dec 30, 2013 18:08:13   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Old Boots, a lot of people do what you have done here.
They try to bypass photography basics and go straight to advanced processing.
Instead of trying your hand at HDR, I suggest that you back up a step or two and study the basic composition guidelines.
Ziggykor gives very good advice when he says simplicity is the strongest method of composition.
Some mistakes in your composition, you have placed your subject in the centre, which can work sometimes, but with a messy confused background it hardly ever works.
As has been mentioned you have distracting objects such as the fence and the wires and uneven flora in your photo.
It looks like you have probably taken the photo from the "easy" spot to get to. Instead of doing this, maybe next time you could go to the "best" spot to get to.
Only with knowledge of composition can you determine where this actual "spot" is.

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Dec 30, 2013 18:51:43   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Oh, no! We are beating the crap out of this poor guy already! Let's give him a few more days! Lol.

I hope you have a good sense of humor, Old Boots. We are actually pretty good people (except for me). We will always try to help.

I have learned a ton of cool stuff on this forum since joining.

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Dec 31, 2013 05:56:10   #
winterrose Loc: Kyneton, Victoria, Australia
 
Old Boots wrote:
Putting this here because its a one shot HDR rather than a true HDR. Before and after, feel free to adjust and/or comment on either.


It appears as though the photograph is overexposed by at least two f/stops. I suspect that this was brought about because the camera set the exposure for the dark rust coloured water tank. Setting for averaging metering would have provided a compromise overall. Also, experiment with the exposure compensation control. See your manual, page 114 if I recall. Cheers, Rob.

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Dec 31, 2013 07:12:13   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
winterrose wrote:
It appears as though the photograph is overexposed by at least two f/stops. .

We as photographers forget to take advantage of our camera's bracketing. Yes, we have histograms on screen, if you can see the screen it is helpful indeed. There was however a beautiful simplicity to the meter arrow in the view like the old cameras. We knew that we would go over or under depending on the scene and it was a simple thing to reach up while viewing and click a real knob.... virtual is virtual, but a real knob is physical and personal.

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Dec 31, 2013 10:42:34   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Working with the exposure, manipulating the colors and detail, using topaz... then I cropped to give three subjects the little tank at the far left, the fence and then the dominate big tank. Note that the tree has been move behind the supports using clone. The detail was brought out of the sky with some adjustment and using a color brush to change the color somewhat.

OLD TANK ALONE UNUSED READY TO FALL
OLD TANK ALONE UNUSED READY TO FALL...

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Dec 31, 2013 12:22:13   #
Old Boots Loc: Caldwell Co., Texas
 
dirtpusher wrote:
is that a gun barrel gaurding the water barrel.


you can tell it has been shot a few times.
Lee

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Dec 31, 2013 12:30:10   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Old Boots wrote:
you can tell it has been shot a few times.
Lee


lol i bet

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Dec 31, 2013 12:33:42   #
Old Boots Loc: Caldwell Co., Texas
 
lighthouse wrote:
Old Boots, a lot of people do what you have done here.
They try to bypass photography basics and go straight to advanced processing.
Instead of trying your hand at HDR, I suggest that you back up a step or two and study the basic composition guidelines.
Ziggykor gives very good advice when he says simplicity is the strongest method of composition.
Some mistakes in your composition, you have placed your subject in the centre, which can work sometimes, but with a messy confused background it hardly ever works.
As has been mentioned you have distracting objects such as the fence and the wires and uneven flora in your photo.
It looks like you have probably taken the photo from the "easy" spot to get to. Instead of doing this, maybe next time you could go to the "best" spot to get to.
Only with knowledge of composition can you determine where this actual "spot" is.
Old Boots, a lot of people do what you have done h... (show quote)


Thanks for looking and commenting. You're right, portrait photography teaches more about Dale Carnegie than landscape composition. This sx50 is my first digital camera so I just stopped the truck, jump out, shoot, jump back in. I'll start taking your and others advice and take my time and shoot a better variety of shots.

Lee

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Dec 31, 2013 12:43:02   #
Old Boots Loc: Caldwell Co., Texas
 
tainkc wrote:
Oh, no! We are beating the crap out of this poor guy already! Let's give him a few more days! Lol.

I hope you have a good sense of humor, Old Boots. We are actually pretty good people (except for me). We will always try to help.

I have learned a ton of cool stuff on this forum since joining.

Don't worry about my sense of humor, tainkc. Incoming is based on my signature line, outgoing you best be a Scot or an Aussie. I'm going to repost in a little while. I was trying to do Serge Ramelli's one button HDR in LR5 but overdid it. went to PSE for the retry. Thanks,
Lee

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Dec 31, 2013 12:50:12   #
Old Boots Loc: Caldwell Co., Texas
 
dpullum wrote:
Working with the exposure, manipulating the colors and detail, using topaz... then I cropped to give three subjects the little tank at the far left, the fence and then the dominate big tank. Note that the tree has been move behind the supports using clone. The detail was brought out of the sky with some adjustment and using a color brush to change the color somewhat.


Thanks for the post, dpullum. I should have said I was trying to do Serge Ramelli's one picture HDR in LR5. I'm going to post a redo out of PSE 12 following yours and other's advice. Didn't do anything about the composition, just the colors.
Lee

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Dec 31, 2013 12:57:04   #
Old Boots Loc: Caldwell Co., Texas
 
winterrose wrote:
It appears as though the photograph is overexposed by at least two f/stops. I suspect that this was brought about because the camera set the exposure for the dark rust coloured water tank. Setting for averaging metering would have provided a compromise overall. Also, experiment with the exposure compensation control. See your manual, page 114 if I recall. Cheers, Rob.


Thanks Rob. I was trying to do Serge Ramelli,s one step HDR on YouTube. See if the attached is better.
Lee

PSE 12.3
PSE 12.3...

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