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Dec 8, 2013 17:12:56   #
riada22 Loc: Edinburgh - Scotland
 
I am going to Edinburgh city center on Thursday night to take photos of the lights, the big wheel and the general atmosphere. I have not been in the habit of night photography but have read up on the basics. What settings would you use in the situation. It will not be pitch black there will be quite a bit of light.
I'm really interested to know what settings some of you would recommend.

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Dec 8, 2013 17:55:45   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Not knowing what camera you'll be using, that's something you might have to judge for yourself. Use a high iso and experiment with the shutter speed. Most cameras have a "night" photography mode, they usually work pretty well.

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Dec 8, 2013 18:00:32   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
riada22 wrote:
I am going to Edinburgh city center on Thursday night to take photos of the lights, the big wheel and the general atmosphere. I have not been in the habit of night photography but have read up on the basics. What settings would you use in the situation. It will not be pitch black there will be quite a bit of light.
I'm really interested to know what settings some of you would recommend.


One thing: you have to shoot manual if you want consistency.

If you use the camera's meter, you will point it one direction, towards lights...and the exposure will be under exposed...and you will point it towards the darker areas...and it will use a massively high ISO to try and brighten those areas...you will have no consistency.

I'd shoot a few test frames..and then get a baseline exposure.

If you want to "smear" the lights creatively and so need to slow the shutter...then you'll have to lower the ISO to compensate and retain the same exposure value.


Make sense?

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Dec 8, 2013 18:06:24   #
JoboX Loc: Liverpool UK
 
riada22 wrote:
I am going to Edinburgh city center on Thursday night to take photos of the lights, the big wheel and the general atmosphere. I have not been in the habit of night photography but have read up on the basics. What settings would you use in the situation. It will not be pitch black there will be quite a bit of light.
I'm really interested to know what settings some of you would recommend.


Camera
Tripod..
Remote trigger

F stop as high as you can get e.g. F22 F36
ISO 100....... reduce noise
Shutter speed vary from 30 secs to 4 or 5 mins per shot.

Have fun experimenting
Doesn't matter what camera as long as you have control of ISO Shutter speed and aperture ... I take in Manual

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Dec 9, 2013 09:44:42   #
riada22 Loc: Edinburgh - Scotland
 
JoboX wrote:
Camera
Tripod..
Remote trigger

F stop as high as you can get e.g. F22 F36
ISO 100....... reduce noise
Shutter speed vary from 30 secs to 4 or 5 mins per shot.

Have fun experimenting
Doesn't matter what camera as long as you have control of ISO Shutter speed and aperture ... I take in Manual

Thanks for that, it's the general direction I was going in.

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Dec 9, 2013 09:46:17   #
riada22 Loc: Edinburgh - Scotland
 
rpavich wrote:
One thing: you have to shoot manual if you want consistency.

If you use the camera's meter, you will point it one direction, towards lights...and the exposure will be under exposed...and you will point it towards the darker areas...and it will use a massively high ISO to try and brighten those areas...you will have no consistency.

I'd shoot a few test frames..and then get a baseline exposure.

If you want to "smear" the lights creatively and so need to slow the shutter...then you'll have to lower the ISO to compensate and retain the same exposure value.


Make sense?
One thing: you have to shoot manual if you want co... (show quote)

There are various points of view but I'll try anything - thanks for replying.

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Dec 9, 2013 09:47:12   #
riada22 Loc: Edinburgh - Scotland
 
cjkorb wrote:
Not knowing what camera you'll be using, that's something you might have to judge for yourself. Use a high iso and experiment with the shutter speed. Most cameras have a "night" photography mode, they usually work pretty well.


Thank you.

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Dec 9, 2013 09:55:20   #
Peter Boyd Loc: Blyth nr. Newcastle U.K.
 
JoboX wrote:
Camera
Tripod..
Remote trigger

F stop as high as you can get e.g. F22 F36
ISO 100....... reduce noise
Shutter speed vary from 30 secs to 4 or 5 mins per shot.

Have fun experimenting
Doesn't matter what camera as long as you have control of ISO Shutter speed and aperture ... I take in Manual


Pretty good advice except for the f-stop part. At very small apertures diffraction will cause loss of image quality, better to stick to something like f8 or f11. This will also reduce the time that the shutter has to be open, which in turn will reduce long exposure noise.

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Dec 9, 2013 10:13:27   #
riada22 Loc: Edinburgh - Scotland
 
Peter Boyd wrote:
Pretty good advice except for the f-stop part. At very small apertures diffraction will cause loss of image quality, better to stick to something like f8 or f11. This will also reduce the time that the shutter has to be open, which in turn will reduce long exposure noise.


Funnily enough I was looking through the internet last night and there were some that agreed with F22 etc and others that agreed with you Peter, I shall have some practice tonight before the event.

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Dec 9, 2013 10:28:23   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Please post some of your results!
My daughter is going to attend Heriot-Watt university next semester.

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Dec 9, 2013 10:30:31   #
Peter Boyd Loc: Blyth nr. Newcastle U.K.
 
riada22 wrote:
Funnily enough I was looking through the internet last night and there were some that agreed with F22 etc and others that agreed with you Peter, I shall have some practice tonight before the event.


That's always the best way to learn, and experience gained is never forgotten. Good luck with the shoot, I love Edinburgh.
Pete.

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Dec 9, 2013 11:22:37   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
riada22 wrote:
I am going to Edinburgh city center on Thursday night to take photos of the lights, the big wheel and the general atmosphere. I have not been in the habit of night photography but have read up on the basics. What settings would you use in the situation. It will not be pitch black there will be quite a bit of light.
I'm really interested to know what settings some of you would recommend.


I find doing night work, f/10 seems to be the best... at least in my experience. I put my Canon in AP to f/10 and let the camera decide the exposure time... I use ISO 100.

f/10 gives me a pretty sharp look at the lights... an example is below. Good luck

Canon t1i, f/10, 5-seconds, ISO 100
Canon t1i, f/10, 5-seconds, ISO 100...

Canon t1i, f/10, 4-seconds, ISO 200
Canon t1i, f/10, 4-seconds, ISO 200...

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Dec 9, 2013 11:52:03   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
riada22 wrote:
I am going to Edinburgh city center on Thursday night .... What settings would you use in the situation. ....

A tried and true starting point would be to use ISO 100 and an EV of 4. That would be about 15 seconds at f/16 or 8 sec at f/11 or 4 sec at f/8, etc. You definitely need a tripod.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_value for a full list of situations.

EV=4 is a good starting point. Depending on how well it is lit you might use an EV of 3 or 5.

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Dec 9, 2013 11:54:48   #
riada22 Loc: Edinburgh - Scotland
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Please post some of your results!
My daughter is going to attend Heriot-Watt university next semester.


I will see what I get before posting, but I am hoping to get something reasonable. I stay not to far away from Herriot-Watts main building, I'm on the bus route that goes to it. I believe that they have various buildings in the Edinburgh area.

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Dec 9, 2013 11:57:43   #
riada22 Loc: Edinburgh - Scotland
 
jimmya wrote:
I find doing night work, f/10 seems to be the best... at least in my experience. I put my Canon in AP to f/10 and let the camera decide the exposure time... I use ISO 100.

f/10 gives me a pretty sharp look at the lights... an example is below. Good luck


Looks good to me thank you.

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