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Nov 26, 2013 19:51:44   #
RonBoe Loc: Matinhos BR. born in Chicago
 
I like this bird shot but seems a bit to busy, I have many close up shots of birds. What do you folks think?

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Nov 26, 2013 20:30:39   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Hi Ronboe. I wonder if some slight cropping would aid in lessening the "busy" while still giving you a feeling of seeing the bird in its surroundings rather than just as a close-up. Something like the below?



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Nov 26, 2013 20:35:37   #
RonBoe Loc: Matinhos BR. born in Chicago
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Hi Ronboe. I wonder if some slight cropping would aid in lessening the "busy" while still giving you a feeling of seeing the bird in its surroundings rather than just as a close-up. Something like the below?

Hi Linda, that does seem to help.
I appreciate the help.
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Nov 26, 2013 21:02:31   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
Ron,
good try but you missed the focus...no big deal....... try it again! getting birds in sharp focus is hard as hell...... but digital is cheap

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Nov 26, 2013 21:43:19   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
RonBoe wrote:
I like this bird shot but seems a bit to busy, I have many close up shots of birds. What do you folks think?


RonBoe, it does seem a bit busy but there is something I really like about this. I tried putting a white vignette on it which tones the background down and makes the bird stand out more. It also affects your frame, but I'm posting it so you can see if you like this look at all.



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Nov 26, 2013 21:49:31   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
Heirloom Tomato wrote:
RonBoe, it does seem a bit busy but there is something I really like about this. I tried putting a white vignette on it which tones the background down and makes the bird stand out more. It also affects your frame, but I'm posting it so you can see if you like this look at all.


ms. tomato,
have you ever saw a photo you didn't want to mess with? he missed the focus and you can't fix it!!

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Nov 26, 2013 21:53:23   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
JC56 wrote:
ms. tomato,
have you ever saw a photo you didn't want to mess with? he missed the focus and you can't fix it!!


I don't think I've messed with any of yours. Do you want me to. :-P

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Nov 26, 2013 22:05:58   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
yes you have and no i don't......you have talent... go take a photo........ adjust the exposure... do a little crop and leave it alone...you may be suprised at the results.

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Nov 26, 2013 22:09:22   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
JC56 wrote:
yes you have and no i don't......you have talent... go take a photo........ adjust the exposure... do a little crop and leave it alone...you may be suprised at the results.


I do that from time to time. Thanks for your advice.

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Nov 26, 2013 22:13:30   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
we are all guilty of messing with good things. Sometimes i will take a decent photo (very rare) and my wife will tell me to leave it alone......i don't listen and 9 out of 10 i screw it up.

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Nov 26, 2013 22:19:57   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
JC56 wrote:
we are all guilty of messing with good things. Sometimes i will take a decent photo (very rare) and my wife will tell me to leave it alone......i don't listen and 9 out of 10 i screw it up.


I hope your odds improve. Good luck, JC. Follow your artistic vision.

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Nov 26, 2013 22:22:09   #
JC56 Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
 
Heirloom Tomato wrote:
I hope your odds improve. Good luck, JC. Follow your artistic vision.


LOL..my artistic vision needs an eye exam.

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Nov 26, 2013 23:15:43   #
RonBoe Loc: Matinhos BR. born in Chicago
 
Heirloom Tomato wrote:
RonBoe, it does seem a bit busy but there is something I really like about this. I tried putting a white vignette on it which tones the background down and makes the bird stand out more. It also affects your frame, but I'm posting it so you can see if you like this look at all.

Thanks Heirloom, that works also.
I appreciate other eyes.
:thumbup:

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Nov 26, 2013 23:19:01   #
RonBoe Loc: Matinhos BR. born in Chicago
 
JC56 wrote:
Ron,
good try but you missed the focus...no big deal....... try it again! getting birds in sharp focus is hard as hell...... but digital is cheap


Thanks jc. :thumbup:

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Nov 27, 2013 09:18:24   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
I like the background lavender color, and the overall texture of the weave of branches. Yes I do think the original is a bit busy without a strong central theme to draw your eye away from the the background. Focus is a bit soft- but could be improved with careful sharpening, I'd pump up the color of the bird with a bit of saturation, and I think the vignette from the Tomato's is a brilliant fix TO YOUR ORIGINAL REQUEST about if the photo is too busy.

I do take issue with JC56's contribution to this is that is is junk being out of focus and leave it alone- no fixing it his is the very last word- no one else need contribute. This is critique and this is the sort of things you are asking about... And I take specific umbrage to the rest of his rant saying and no one is allowed to demonstrate what their fix might be. No one can mess with the original- the photographer has it- in this section- unless specifically requested- have at it.

If you are not interested in improving an image- but simply want a pat on the back, post it elsewhere.

In a critique, and I have had to stand up in front of many, you are baring your soul in it, asking for the blatant truth in order to learn. There are adjustments that can be applied in other photos in similar situations that we can all learn from. A visual representation is worth 1000 words.

SO in that spirit- in order to demonstrate that my sugestions may be seen as a way to improve things - or not. ( that is left up to the discretion of the OP)

Note my vignette is a bit of lavender selected from the image rather than white. I sharpened the whole image- made a mask to hide it all, then, in the mask, brushed in where the sharpening appears, on the whole bird and the branches around him - to enhance the bokeh effect, and increased the saturation on the bird.

I think you have a hangable photo IMHO. BTW it appears much lighter once posted- i prefer it darker as it appears on my screen- even though I did not adjust this.



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