D7100: I am toying with the idea of part exchanging my D7000 for the D7100 because the reviews indicate a much sharper and better quality image with the D7100 and the 1.3 crop feature...

Larry-D7000-UK Loc: UK

I am toying with the idea of part exchanging my D7000 for the D7100 because the reviews indicate a much sharper and better quality image with the D7100 and the 1.3 crop feature would give me a slightly better advantage when zooming in with my 70-300mm lens.
So I was wondering if any members have experience with both of these cameras and could advise me whether or not it is worth upgrading.

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

Larry-D7000-UK wrote:

I am toying with the idea of part exchanging my D7000 for the D7100 because the reviews indicate a much sharper and better quality image with the D7100 and the 1.3 crop feature would give me a slightly better advantage when zooming in with my 70-300mm lens.
So I was wondering if any members have experience with both of these cameras and could advise me whether or not it is worth upgrading.

The D7100 is better than the D7000. I've upgraded and have no regrets. Only you can decide if its worth it to you.

The 1.3 crop is a gimmick. Its no different than cropping in PP. When you do it in the camera you need to be more careful in framing. This can be a big handicap. In post processing you have more flexibility in framing.

tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada

Larry-D7000-UK wrote:

I am toying with the idea of part exchanging my D7000 for the D7100 because the reviews indicate a much sharper and better quality image with the D7100 and the 1.3 crop feature would give me a slightly better advantage when zooming in with my 70-300mm lens.
So I was wondering if any members have experience with both of these cameras and could advise me whether or not it is worth upgrading.

I have both and yes I do find a difference.The 7100 is awesome in low light and if you want to crop the megs help.Remember that when you shot at 1.3 you will be shooting at about 16.t0 17 megs which is more than adequate. The controls on the left side are a little different than the 7000,but you get accustomed to them fast. I would recommend keeping the 7000 as a backup and put a different lens on it and then your not changing lenses in the field. I'm very happy with mine.

treadwl Loc: South Florida

I've been teaching a photo class and the students are u sing the d7000. It is a fine camera. Unless you need the increased low light capabilities I'd suggest saving your money and buying glass instead. The Nikon 300mm f4 lens is a VAST up grade over the 70-300.

Just a note to validate my perspective. I have a d800 but I still shoot my d300s frequently (for wildlife and daytime sports) and get amazing photos. However I shoot with quality glass. The glass and the photographer are far more important than the camera body.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Larry
my long glass includes:
200-400 f4 vr zoom
70-200 f2.8 vr zoom
tc1.4

RetiredPhotog Loc: South West Ohio

Larry-D7000-UK wrote:

I am toying with the idea of part exchanging my D7000 for the D7100 because the reviews indicate a much sharper and better quality image with the D7100 and the 1.3 crop feature would give me a slightly better advantage when zooming in with my 70-300mm lens.
So I was wondering if any members have experience with both of these cameras and could advise me whether or not it is worth upgrading.

Larry I like wise upgraded from a D7000 to my D7100. I bought my D7000 about one month before the D7100 was announced and upgraded in less than a year. I loved the D7000 and I really love my D7100 but in reality for what it cost me and what I gained was probably not worth it.

Granted there are some nice additions to the D7100 that has been mentioned but looking at the benefits you probably need to decide for your self if it is worth it to you. I have no regrets for the upgrade but I had some extra funds set back. I do use and like the 1.3 crop feature as you will be able to shoot faster at about 5 - 6 shots a second but you have to be careful as you may cut some of you picture off if you don't pay attention to the reduced frame around your shot. The extra pixels doesn't do that much for me as I don't print large pictures. Don't know if I helped much but as long as I had the extra funding I would probably do it again.

:D

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

I upgraded to the 7100 from the 7000 just for the button change on the mode dial, and I do not use the 1.3 crop the 7100 better High ISo noise reduction Over all a better camera

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

tusketwedge wrote:

... when you shot at 1.3 you will be shooting at about 16.t0 17 megs which is more than adequate....

The 1.3 crop is a linear dimension whereas MP is an area value. The result of cropping by 1.3 is 24 / (1.3 x 1.3) = about 14 MP. Nevertheless, 14 MP is also more than adequate.

A DX crop of a full frame 36 MP image is 37 / (1.5 x 1.5) or 16 MP. So a D800 with a DX lens ends up with the same resolution as a D7000 because the linear pixels per mm are the same.

If you use a DX crop on a D800, you are wasting about $2,000 of its potential.

The best way to crop is by using the right focal length - crop and frame in the viewfinder before you click the shutter, without sacrificing the capacity of your sensor.

Jerry Green Loc: Huntsville, AL

I use the DX crop on my D800E and the 1.3X crop on my D7100 when shooting Video. I do a lot of nature video and the "extra reach" makes a difference.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Jerry Green wrote:

I use the DX crop on my D800E and the 1.3X crop on my D7100 when shooting Video. ....

For photographs, if you use the DX crop on the D7100 you will end up with 50% more resolution than on the D800 (24 MP on the D7100 vs 16 MP on the D800E).

However, when shooting video it does not really matter since you end up with no more than 2 MP anyhow.

Larry-D7000-UK Loc: UK

Thanks for all your replies and tips and I really like the idea that the D7100 is better in low light as I do like night photography and I am also into ghost hunting and do not like to use the flash so that I can try and capture the spooky atmosphere.
But I was told by someone in another forum that the d7100 was worse than d7000 for noise, I wish that I knew someone local to me with d7100 so that I go and compare them for myself.

Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio

Maybe go rent one for weekend or so Larry and see for yourself...that is if you have a store near Doncaster.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Larry-D7000-UK wrote:

...But I was told by someone in another forum that the d7100 was worse than d7000 for noise, I wish that I knew someone local to me with d7100 so that I go and compare them for myself.

In general, when one camera's pixels are smaller than another's, there would likely be more noise in each pixel.

By that logic, A D600 should be better than a D7000 which should in turn be better than a D7100. But the differences may be so slight you cannot tell.

You can try to judge for yourself at http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/comparisons/2013-04-09-dslrs/index.htm

tusketwedge Loc: Nova Scotia Canada

selmslie wrote:

In general, when one camera's pixels are smaller than another's, there would likely be more noise in each pixel.

By that logic, A D600 should be better than a D7000 which should in turn be better than a D7100. But the differences may be so slight you cannot tell.

You can try to judge for yourself at http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/comparisons/2013-04-09-dslrs/index.htm

I don't understand your logic ,can you please explain.The d600 shoots at 24.3 megapixels
the d7100 shoots at 24.1
and the d7000 shoots at 16.2
by your logisc the D600 and the D7100 are basically shooting at the same megapixels so the noise factor should be the same ,should it not? With the D7000 having the most noise or am I missing something?

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

tusketwedge wrote:

I don't understand your logic ,can you please explain....

D600: 24MP / (24x36 mm) = 27,778 pixels/sq mm
D7000: 16 MP / (16x24 mm) = 41,667 pixels/sq mm
D7100: 24 MP / (16x24 mm) = 62,500 pixels/sq mm
D800: 36 MP / (24x36 mm) = 41,667 pixels/sq mm
D4/Df: 16 MP / (24x36 mm) = 18,519 pixels/sq mm

The more pixels you squeeze into a square millimeter, the smaller they will be. The smaller they are, the more susceptible each pixel is to noise - theoretically, unless the pixels are somehow "better".

amehta Loc: Boston

tusketwedge wrote:

I don't understand your logic ,can you please explain.The d600 shoots at 24.3 megapixels
the d7100 shoots at 24.1
and the d7000 shoots at 16.2
by your logisc the D600 and the D7100 are basically shooting at the same megapixels so the noise factor should be the same ,should it not? With the D7000 having the most noise or am I missing something?

The sensor sizes are different, the D600 is FX and the D7100/D7000 are DX.