bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL

Lmarc Loc: Ojojona, Honduras

Eventually they will be forced to do so, though they will have tacit support of several Middle Eastern countries who will try to stay "under the table". Israel knows it can't depend on their fair weather friends.....meaning us.

bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL

You are absolutely right. :thumbup: :thumbup:

davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel

8-) 8-) 8-) Funny thing just happened, I backed into this site from the Virtual Aircraft Museum's article about the Saudis building up their naval and air forces. Last spring they accepted delivery of several ships and firmed the order with Boeing for 84 Eagle type F-15's. All avenues seem to point to the fact the the ninnies in DC are now out of the loop. Who would trust a nation's leader that kept claiming he did not know what his staff was doing? Seems some folks are getting ready to rock and roll in the desert, and the west isn't going to be allowed to dance. Obama care? He seems to have half the planet littered with his incompetency, maybe the Irani's will get subsidized coverage. They will undoubtedly need all they can get. This will actually take the heat of O's domestic disasters and let the press forget about whatever they were doing last. :-P :-P :-P

bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL

:lol: :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

"The officials said the U.S. passed strong messages to Israel and the Saudis that the Americans maintain and control radar capabilities around the skies of Iran and that no strike should be launched without the permission of the Obama administration."

What balls. After Obama turns his back on Israel, he has the balls to tell them that they can not strike without his permission!

davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel

Only an idiot would think they would ask. This is going to be devastating to obummer's ego. His Nobel Peace Prize just turned to dust.

Lmarc Loc: Ojojona, Honduras

I wonder if this gutless and feckless fool thinks Netanyahu really gives a FLYING CRAP what he thinks?? Maybe he'll draw another "red line". Or maybe send him a stern email? More likely he'll just pee his pants and go golfing.

bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL

Yup. That's Obummer for you. No wonder our international reputation is in the toilet.

TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ

Yeh Yeh! I remember last time we got directly involved in nuclear non-prelifiration! That was with N-Korea, we sent Jimmy Peanuts over there, he stayed 2 weeks, came back and said it was all good, nothing to worry about, we gave them a few $million and they promised to never build a bomb.....two years later they exploded their first one !
Iran sits smack bang in the middle of a powder keg, Israel will do whatever they decide, when they decide, they don't need anybody's permission, they are a warrior nation and they kick ass as we have seen in the passed! :thumbup:

PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

US a fair weather fried to Israel? Since the Camp David accords Israel has received an unreviewed $3 billion annual dole from the US, which is used to dispossess Palestinians of even the 22% of their former land the Israelis have not yet stolen. Supplements to this currently bring the annual total to $20 billion a year at a time when necessary domestic programs are sequestered. It funds the further dispossession and oppression of the Palestinian people. The US has used its veto power in the UN Security Council 53 times to keep the rest of the world from holding Israel to international law, including provisions of UN Resolution 181, 194, and 242, all of which the US endorsed at the time they were passed. Fair weather friend, indeed.

You are obviously endorsing the Israeli possibility of unilaterally destroying Iranian nuclear facilities based on Netanyahu's contention that Iran is the most dangerous regime in the world. What country has Iran invaded in the last twenty years? How many nations have they bombed? Now compare that to Israel and the United States to see which are the two most dangerous countries in the world.

Israel already had at least 200 nuclear warheads in 1987, as proved by Mordachai Vanunu's photographic evidence. If Iran finally developed a nuclear weapon, they might assemble a few at most, with insufficient delivery systems against state of the art thermonuclear devices and rockets made in Dimona. That would be some threat; certainly one that would justify Netanyahu's hysteria, and yours, and yet another "see what you made me do to you" vicious attack by those people who have "purity of arms."

In truth, the real danger is for nations that have no nuclear weapons. Without them Iran stands the constant danger of being bullied, bombed, invaded, and conquered like Iraq, if it does not do the bidding of Israel and the United States. If having a few nuclear weapons were the real danger, the US would have chosen North Korea to conquer, as that nation already has them. Instead, it chose Iraq, a nation that made no significant progress toward nuclei weapons since the barbaric Israeli bombing of the Osirac nuclear facility in 1981.

Possession of nuclear weapons has proved to be a defensive deterrent, not an offensive one. Militaristic nations, such as Israel and the United States dare not invade those countries that possess them, and no nation has been viciously callouss enough to use them on the first strike basis, but the US. The hysteria of Netanyahu, the Untied states, and of the article to which you referred is hypocritical militaristic propaganda by which the strong bully the weak. Israel, not Iran is the real threat to peace in the Middle East.

PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas

Yes, and how the world has ten devastated since then. North Korea has been blowing up one country after another.

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

And now a word from our in-house Socialist... who is against anything and everything that is USA and of Israel! We waste that much money here in the States on people that don't work and on projects that don't work either - stimulus my ass. Democrats can't get a budget together to stop Obama from spending and you worry about how much money we give to Israel? What about those other "poor mouth do nothing but live off the American tit" countries?
Israel should kick the rest of the Palestinians out of Israel. It was never the Palestinians land any way. It has always belonged to Israel. Palestinians are a hot bed of hate against the US as it is... just like you!

orangie Loc: Middle Tennessee

Palestinian/muslim lovers are difficult to converse with. Somehow they have the twisted notion they are peacelovers.
Israel has a Mighty General in charge... the end result will fall into place quite nicely.

tjl441

And how much money do we give to Arab countries who hate us?? Which one of the would come to our aid if we needed it??

Most of us know that Israel surely would!!!

While America's standing in the Middle East couldn't get much lower, you wouldn't know it looking at the U.S. foreign aid budget. Of proposed U.S. assistance for 2012, almost two-thirds is earmarked for Muslim nations and one-third goes to Arab countries.

Yet, despite those billions in aid, opinion polls show most Arab citizens still have an unfavorable view of America and most Muslim nations routinely vote against U.S. interests in the United Nations.

"If we are giving money to countries consistently voting against our interest, we ought to cut them off,"

The result: some of the largest recipients of U.S. taxpayer money over the last 6 budget years consistently vote against the U.S. and harbor negative or unfavorable views of America.

Some other Muslim countries show almost no friendship or allegiance to the U.S. but continue to see the State Department shower them with money.