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Nov 16, 2013 22:14:18   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
This was the weather an hour north of Yakima today! Aside from cloning a bunch of wires, towers and poles (ugh!), wondering what you think of my crop and pp. You may edit the original if you'd like to illustrate your suggestions - though please don't feel that you have to do any cloning :) THANKS!







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Nov 16, 2013 23:32:57   #
Gauss Loc: Earth
 
Hi Linda,

To me, the power line tower in the foreground isn't a problem; it doesn't distract me from the church. Two benefits of not worrying about it are you eliminate all the work of cloning it out, and you get to keep the interesting colors and patterns of the fields. An alternate crop I like is to take off the top to just above the mountain tops. And if you don't want the other buildings, crop off the left too. To me, the processing increased the contrast a bit too much and looks like it introduced some color into the grey clouds. I do like the color of the fields you got, and I think it indicates you could really get some nice colors in those you cropped out.

I also think it would be fine with minimal cropping if you bring out the colors of the fields without overdoing the sky. Natural stormy skies match well with tans and golds of dry grasses.

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Nov 16, 2013 23:51:10   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Gauss wrote:
Hi Linda,

To me, the power line tower in the foreground isn't a problem; it doesn't distract me from the church. Two benefits of not worrying about it are you eliminate all the work of cloning it out, and you get to keep the interesting colors and patterns of the fields. An alternate crop I like is to take off the top to just above the mountain tops. And if you don't want the other buildings, crop off the left too. To me, the processing increased the contrast a bit too much and looks like it introduced some color into the grey clouds. I do like the color of the fields you got, and I think it indicates you could really get some nice colors in those you cropped out.

I also think it would be fine with minimal cropping if you bring out the colors of the fields without overdoing the sky. Natural stormy skies match well with tans and golds of dry grasses.
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Thank you so much for your thoughtful comments, Scott. My pp definitely is lacking, especially once I saw it on the site :)

I will try your suggestions after a good night's sleep. Thanks again!

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Nov 17, 2013 03:54:30   #
Heirloom Tomato Loc: Oregon
 
I understand why you cropped it as you did, but I would like to see more foreground and less sky. I love the colors you got in the grass, but the processed sky looks too blue. I prefer the tones of the original sky. That electrical wire and buildings...... wish they weren't there but cloning them out might be a task. If you can live with them, they might not stand out too much with the improved color you could add to the grass and foreground. These Washington shots are all about wide open land and you can feature it.

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Nov 17, 2013 05:38:01   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
This was the weather an hour north of Yakima today! Aside from cloning a bunch of wires, towers and poles (ugh!), wondering what you think of my crop and pp. You may edit the original if you'd like to illustrate your suggestions - though please don't feel that you have to do any cloning :) THANKS!


Hi, Linda,
Simply as regards possible crops for composition purposes:
If the church is, indeed, the C.O.I., I suggest a 16:9 aspect with the church on the lower left intersection of R.O.Thirds. This also accentuates the church on the diagonal of the continuation of the angle of the prominent snowy massif.
i tried a number of aspects and sizes and felt that any larger crop excessively diminished the size and significance of the church. If further minimizing the church were acceptable, then I suggest using a panorama aspect with full attention to emphasizing "mountains' magesty".

Dave in SD

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Nov 17, 2013 08:08:39   #
Chuck_893 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
 
Uuglypher wrote:
Hi, Linda,
Simply as regards possible crops for composition purposes:
If the church is, indeed, the C.O.I., I suggest a 16:9 aspect with the church on the lower left intersection of R.O.Thirds. This also accentuates the church on the diagonal of the continuation of the angle of the prominent snowy massif.
i tried a number of aspects and sizes and felt that any larger crop excessively diminished the size and significance of the church. If further minimizing the church were acceptable, then I suggest using a panorama aspect with full attention to emphasizing "mountains' magesty". Dave in SD
Hi, Linda, br Simply as regards possible crops for... (show quote)

I agree. Linda, I did not care for your crop and PP, but I fully understand why you did it. For me, though, I would try to clone rather than crop. For me the original works! The massif, bright though it is, remains background. My eye goes to the church, despite having the same brightness value as the snow. I think it's because of placement. It'd be a lot of painful work. I think sometimes this is why painters paint. :wink:

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Nov 17, 2013 09:05:50   #
Racin17 Loc: Western Pa
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
This was the weather an hour north of Yakima today! Aside from cloning a bunch of wires, towers and poles (ugh!), wondering what you think of my crop and pp. You may edit the original if you'd like to illustrate your suggestions - though please don't feel that you have to do any cloning :) THANKS!


I like the way you cropped and really like the bolder colors. They seem deeper and eye catching. The only thing i can see is maybe less sky, it seems to overpower the ground and mountains.

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Nov 17, 2013 09:36:36   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Heirloom Tomato wrote:
I understand why you cropped it as you did, but I would like to see more foreground and less sky. I love the colors you got in the grass, but the processed sky looks too blue. I prefer the tones of the original sky. That electrical wire and buildings...... wish they weren't there but cloning them out might be a task. If you can live with them, they might not stand out too much with the improved color you could add to the grass and foreground. These Washington shots are all about wide open land and you can feature it.
I understand why you cropped it as you did, but I ... (show quote)


Thank you Hope, I really appreciate and respect your take on this.

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Nov 17, 2013 09:37:05   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Uuglypher wrote:
Hi, Linda,
Simply as regards possible crops for composition purposes:
If the church is, indeed, the C.O.I., I suggest a 16:9 aspect with the church on the lower left intersection of R.O.Thirds. This also accentuates the church on the diagonal of the continuation of the angle of the prominent snowy massif.
i tried a number of aspects and sizes and felt that any larger crop excessively diminished the size and significance of the church. If further minimizing the church were acceptable, then I suggest using a panorama aspect with full attention to emphasizing "mountains' magesty".

Dave in SD
Hi, Linda, br Simply as regards possible crops for... (show quote)


Thank you!

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Nov 17, 2013 09:37:58   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Chuck_893 wrote:
I agree. Linda, I did not care for your crop and PP, but I fully understand why you did it. For me, though, I would try to clone rather than crop. For me the original works! The massif, bright though it is, remains background. My eye goes to the church, despite having the same brightness value as the snow. I think it's because of placement. It'd be a lot of painful work. I think sometimes this is why painters paint. :wink:


Thank you very much Chuck. I have a few other shots, including with my SX50, so I'll keep at it.

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Nov 17, 2013 09:38:44   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Racin17 wrote:
I like the way you cropped and really like the bolder colors. They seem deeper and eye catching. The only thing i can see is maybe less sky, it seems to overpower the ground and mountains.


Thank you Racin17. I see what you mean about not needing as much of that cloud cover. I appreciate your time and comments.

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Nov 17, 2013 11:37:38   #
NCWLinda Loc: North Central Washington State
 
I have always wanted to photograph that little church in Teanaway. It amazes me that it just sits out in the middle of nowhere. Good job Linda. I think the next time I go that way, I will take the road Into it and see what I can do with my camera.

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Nov 17, 2013 13:16:37   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
NCWLinda wrote:
I have always wanted to photograph that little church in Teanaway. It amazes me that it just sits out in the middle of nowhere. Good job Linda. I think the next time I go that way, I will take the road Into it and see what I can do with my camera.


How neat you recognized it, Linda! That was my first time on Rte 970 west of 97. It was so cold and wind was blowing furiously. The section of the state hwy closest to the church provided a frustrating close-up of the electric towers right in mid-frame :)

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Nov 17, 2013 13:19:20   #
Nightski
 
I love this image Linda. I like the rolling hills leading up to the church, and then the mountains continuing on. I don't know it there is always snow on those mountains, but if not you caught it at the perfect time of year. The snow makes that little white church really pop.

I do think this image is well worth the work of getting rid of the telephone poles and the other structure. Those are an annoying distraction that you could not have avoided. I don't think this pic would be as good from any other angle.

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Nov 17, 2013 13:23:22   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Nightski wrote:
I love this image Linda. I like the rolling hills leading up to the church, and then the mountains continuing on. I don't know it there is always snow on those mountains, but if not you caught it at the perfect time of year. The snow makes that little white church really pop.

I do think this image is well worth the work of getting rid of the telephone poles and the other structure. Those are an annoying distraction that you could not have avoided. I don't think this pic would be as good from any other angle.
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Thanks so much, Sandra. Maybe I'll practice cloning with my brand-new Elements 12 that I just installed this morning :) Have not used this Adobe software before, only a Corel Paintshop Pro - and the free stuff.

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