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Jan 22, 2012 10:46:10   #
notnoBuddha
 
What the heck, I can't hardly even find no kerosene lamps anymore ever sinse that dang blasted Tommy Edison started to dink around, than they strung electical wire inside the walls, brought the outhouse inside {darn right disgusting}, tarred the roads, and horseless carriages. It just ain't the good old days no more, may be about time for me to move on.

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Jan 22, 2012 18:47:58   #
RobertMaxey
 
MisterWilson wrote:
Hard to discuss any cancer connection without a link to the medical evidence. Anybody got one?

I like the long tube fluorescent bulbs, in an office environment; but don't like the small ones in my house. I've never heard of a connection with the long tubes and cancer. Has anyone? After all these years it seems like it would be highly evident if there were any danger.


No. The problem is nobody seems to believe the evidence.

Those tube lamps do contain poisonous phosphors and they could be a problem, but they can be cleaned up.

Mercury is said to cause cancer; there are no studies that prove it does. Lots of studies say they might and perhaps there is a study that says it definitely does. But we have studies that prove wearing tinfoil hats keep the mind control rays from the 6th dimension at bay, so who knows.

We know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that DDT is not dangerous. People have been known to eat the stuff. Sadly, if DDT were available, it would help solve the malaria problem. One crazy woman names Rachael Carson (Silent Spring) spun a bunch of BS into a book that ended DDT.

Certainly, it causes birth defects in large quantities. But it become an issue only when the lamp is broken. Mercury cannot leak out or the bulb would stop working because air could get in.

If you break one, it can be extremely difficult to get the little balls of mercury out of your carpet. They tend to migrate towards your floor and they fill the gaps between boards, so the metal is with you forever.

Commercial business must hire a Haz-Mat team to clean your store and make it mercury free. At least here in Utah.

The mercury will contaminate the dump; if you think people are not going to simply toss their bulbs into the trash, think again. So we end up with lots of mercury in the landfill.

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Jan 23, 2012 11:11:22   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
RobertMaxey wrote:
MisterWilson wrote:
Hard to discuss any cancer connection without a link to the medical evidence. Anybody got one?

I like the long tube fluorescent bulbs, in an office environment; but don't like the small ones in my house. I've never heard of a connection with the long tubes and cancer. Has anyone? After all these years it seems like it would be highly evident if there were any danger.


No. The problem is nobody seems to believe the evidence.

Those tube lamps do contain poisonous phosphors and they could be a problem, but they can be cleaned up.

Mercury is said to cause cancer; there are no studies that prove it does. Lots of studies say they might and perhaps there is a study that says it definitely does. But we have studies that prove wearing tinfoil hats keep the mind control rays from the 6th dimension at bay, so who knows.

We know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that DDT is not dangerous. People have been known to eat the stuff. Sadly, if DDT were available, it would help solve the malaria problem. One crazy woman names Rachael Carson (Silent Spring) spun a bunch of BS into a book that ended DDT.

Certainly, it causes birth defects in large quantities. But it become an issue only when the lamp is broken. Mercury cannot leak out or the bulb would stop working because air could get in.

If you break one, it can be extremely difficult to get the little balls of mercury out of your carpet. They tend to migrate towards your floor and they fill the gaps between boards, so the metal is with you forever.

Commercial business must hire a Haz-Mat team to clean your store and make it mercury free. At least here in Utah.

The mercury will contaminate the dump; if you think people are not going to simply toss their bulbs into the trash, think again. So we end up with lots of mercury in the landfill.
quote=MisterWilson Hard to discuss any cancer con... (show quote)


As kids, years ago, we used to rub mercury on silver coins to make them shine. Later on they would take on a cloudy look.
I've heard that mercury can penetrate the skin and since the body has no way of eliminating it, it remains in the blood stream. Therefore you'll have a shorter life.
I don't know how true this statement is, but for years we shined coins with mercury, all my schools had asbestos lined pipes everywhere, got skinned and abrased during gym class...among many other life threatening things.
...Guess I'm lucky, I made 71 in good health, so did a lot of other people that did the same things.

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Jan 23, 2012 22:01:45   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
I was sitting here one night and happened to look up at my lamp with the curley bulb in it. It caught my attention when it started smoking on its own. I'm just damned glad I was here to catch it.

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Jan 23, 2012 22:03:38   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
rayford2 wrote:
RobertMaxey wrote:
MisterWilson wrote:
Hard to discuss any cancer connection without a link to the medical evidence. Anybody got one?

I like the long tube fluorescent bulbs, in an office environment; but don't like the small ones in my house. I've never heard of a connection with the long tubes and cancer. Has anyone? After all these years it seems like it would be highly evident if there were any danger.


No. The problem is nobody seems to believe the evidence.

Those tube lamps do contain poisonous phosphors and they could be a problem, but they can be cleaned up.

Mercury is said to cause cancer; there are no studies that prove it does. Lots of studies say they might and perhaps there is a study that says it definitely does. But we have studies that prove wearing tinfoil hats keep the mind control rays from the 6th dimension at bay, so who knows.

We know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that DDT is not dangerous. People have been known to eat the stuff. Sadly, if DDT were available, it would help solve the malaria problem. One crazy woman names Rachael Carson (Silent Spring) spun a bunch of BS into a book that ended DDT.

Certainly, it causes birth defects in large quantities. But it become an issue only when the lamp is broken. Mercury cannot leak out or the bulb would stop working because air could get in.

If you break one, it can be extremely difficult to get the little balls of mercury out of your carpet. They tend to migrate towards your floor and they fill the gaps between boards, so the metal is with you forever.

Commercial business must hire a Haz-Mat team to clean your store and make it mercury free. At least here in Utah.

The mercury will contaminate the dump; if you think people are not going to simply toss their bulbs into the trash, think again. So we end up with lots of mercury in the landfill.
quote=MisterWilson Hard to discuss any cancer con... (show quote)


As kids, years ago, we used to rub mercury on silver coins to make them shine. Later on they would take on a cloudy look.
I've heard that mercury can penetrate the skin and since the body has no way of eliminating it, it remains in the blood stream. Therefore you'll have a shorter life.
I don't know how true this statement is, but for years we shined coins with mercury, all my schools had asbestos lined pipes everywhere, got skinned and abrased during gym class...among many other life threatening things.
...Guess I'm lucky, I made 71 in good health, so did a lot of other people that did the same things.
quote=RobertMaxey quote=MisterWilson Hard to dis... (show quote)


I've seen several news stories about authorities shutting down schools because a couple kids were playing with mercury in a tiny corner of the school. I also played with the stuff when I was in school. It never affected me. It never affected me. It never affected me. It never affected me. It never affected me.

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Jan 23, 2012 22:13:27   #
jdeanb Loc: Texas / central
 
Run Run The sky is falling The sky is falling

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Jan 23, 2012 22:15:08   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
catcher T wrote:
Im just so sick of the government telling us what is good for us all the time!


That goes for me too.

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Jan 24, 2012 00:29:17   #
glenn Loc: oregon
 
seen several news stories about authorities shutting down schools because a couple kids were playing with mercury in a tiny corner of the school. I also played with the stuff when I was in school. It never affected me. It never affected me. It never affected me. It never affected me. It never affected me.[/quote]

I used to work at a place that we rebuilt barometers for altimeters so we could rebuild and calibrate them and they used about 5 lbs of mercury and nothing wrong with me with me

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Jan 24, 2012 02:06:58   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
Is there anything California tests that isn't hazardous to our health?

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Jan 24, 2012 03:16:13   #
genethehat
 
If you think Mercury is bad listen to this. Here in the Veterans Home they want to take away BAR SOAP. "Safety hazzard" I wonder what part of BS they do not understand

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