PP question (Page 2): I don't think there is a debate. Our cameras cannot capture the things the same as we can see due to the limitations of todays camera/sensor technology. It is...

TNmike Loc: NW TN

Rongnongno wrote:

The eye/brain association is the same as the ear/b... (show quote)

I don't think there is a debate. Our cameras cannot capture the things the same as we can see due to the limitations of todays camera/sensor technology. It is improving very fast though!! It will likely happen fast!! TNmike

St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet

TNmike wrote:

I don't think there is a debate. Our cameras cannot capture the things the same as we can see due to the limitations of todays camera/sensor technology. It is improving very fast though!! It will likely happen fast!! TNmike

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Whuff Loc: Marshalltown, Iowa

Before I became interested in photography I was interested in art. There is a correlation in that both use composition, color, subject matter to tell a story,or to show someone something they may not otherwise see. I have seen absolutely wonderful images on here that have been straight out of the camera, and many more that have had PP applied. If an image strikes my eye, I don't care which it is. A while back I posted a picture I had taken of a door to a crypt which while trying to give it just a wee bit of PP, I accidentally enlarged to a 100percent view. When that happened I was absolutely blown away by some details I hadn't noticed otherwise. I actually liked the enlarged, cropped image better than the original. With that being said, I have also seen what I would consider overworked PP, which didn't work for me, but it may have appealed to someone else. That is why I always refrain from criticizing others photos, and why I rarely visit the C &C section. To each his own.

St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet

Whuff wrote:

...That is why I always refrain from criticizing others photos, and why I rarely visit the C &C section. To each his own.

To have an opinion, especially one that might help someone, and not use it is a waste of a good education. I may not agree, but I will always listen.

faygo Loc: Tucson, AZ

Because, when I look at a photo and "assume" that it is what the camera took, without human tweaking, I make the mistake that I can take an awesome photo like that with my camera. So does it make a difference how good a shot is, if I can't post process? Just saying.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

St3v3M wrote:

This helps to explain http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-163042-1.html

The only thing I agree with totally is:
Our goal as photographer is to create images that are pleasing to the eye.

Why?
A camera never interprets, it records... Imperfectly. THAT is my beef with the writer.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

faygo wrote:

Because, when I look at a photo and "assume" that it is what the camera took, without human tweaking, I make the mistake that I can take an awesome photo like that with my camera. So does it make a difference how good a shot is, if I can't post process? Just saying.

Yes and No.

Yes because you may never be satisfied if you compare to someone else's work.

No, because you are the sole judge of what is good or bad to you.

Now, if you post something and ask for C&C you might get discouraged faster than you eye can blink but then again, because of the need to conform and be nice you will get the required oooh and aaah when other folks will log off....

momma deb Loc: Northeast, Ohio

Wow, some very interesting comments. I do understand that the eye is the greatest lens ever created but I was talking about a photo that is so changed that it looks artificial and not at all like it would in nature. I guess it's a case of "To each his own". I just don't care for the photos that are obviously not true to life with over boosted color. Thank you all for your input.

faygo Loc: Tucson, AZ

Thank you for your comments. I am usually my worst critic. But on a rare occasion I get an "ah ha" moment. For example, this picture was straight from my camera. I lightened it some to gain detail. If a person was to post process this photo, what could be done to enhance it from the original?

Hike through Honeybee Trail, AZ

faygo Loc: Tucson, AZ

Ask and ye shall receive...more than one bargained for.

St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet

momma deb wrote:

Wow, some very interesting comments. I do understand that the eye is the greatest lens ever created but I was talking about a photo that is so changed that it looks artificial and not at all like it would in nature. I guess it's a case of "To each his own". I just don't care for the photos that are obviously not true to life with over boosted color. Thank you all for your input.

Photographs are akin to paintings where some are realistic and some garish, but they are all art and an expression of someone soul.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

faygo wrote:

Thank you for your comments. I am usually my worst critic. But on a rare occasion I get an "ah ha" moment. For example, this picture was straight from my camera. I lightened it some to gain detail. If a person was to post process this photo, what could be done to enhance it from the original?

Your *'Ah Ah' moment* was just that. Unless one goes all out to make this a surrealist picture it is: "YES!"

You did not lose the sky, you have near perfect mid tones. You might want to darken the black (use contrast and not much of that) or use a layer to isolate them IF you have a program that allows it.

The only imperfection I see is the lens flare but then again, some will find that good so I would leave it alone too.

Now if you were to post the un-edited picture... The mid-tones would not be that good.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Crazy image you can do in PP...

http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2013/10/30/thumb-1383110106813-construct_bee_girl_v2sm.jpg

faygo Loc: Tucson, AZ

Thanks rongnongno. I actually put the lens flare in on purpose. I kinda like the star burst effect. :)

faygo Loc: Tucson, AZ

Never learned how to use layers. I have Microsoft Digital Imaging. Love the program, but many features I have not used since I don't know how to use them. Could use the help menu I suspect.