Nightski

When W/R first posted this in the PC&C Section yesterday, I was horrified by it. But after a good night's sleep, these are my thoughts on it now. I welcome other comments and opinions.

When my children were little, I did daycare in my home. We had a trampoline. We had someone excavate a area in the ground to place the trampoline in so that it was flush with the ground. I also required every parent to sign a release form in case of injury. I took on a little girl whose dad was a lawyer. He smiled, signed the form, and said, "I can still sue you if anything happens to her."

My point being, that even though UHH has this clause, it does not prevent the photographer from suing if UHH were to try to profit from the photos posted here. Even if the photographer did not win, it would be bad for UHH to be sued. I think the trust issues that would inevitably arise from such an ordeal, would cause serious harm to the site.

So why would UHH have a clause like this? My thought is that UHH is simply trying to protect itself from a lawsuit. It has no interest in marketing the photos posted here.

bigcoz Loc: Philly

You want to bet?

Nightski

No, I want to find out what everyone else thinks. :-)

Musket Loc: ArtBallin'

This should be a fun topic. I for one am not worried about UHH of all places, stealing my images.

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

This issue was discussed on the forum back in September 2011. Here is a link so folks can read what the administrator and others had to say concerning it and other points regarding copyright concerns. Enjoy. 8-)

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-1742-1.html

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

I think that in life, there are risks. Some take those risks more freely than others, and those others call them daredevils.
We are at the mercy of trust in others. But that's only an assumption, not a guarantee.
We walk down the sidewalk, and only assume, that the driver coming down the street, is not going to jump the sidewalk and kill us. But it's ONLY an assumption, for it happens, but usually to someone else.
If you don't want to get hurt, don't get out of bed.
And if you do play, you play at your own risk, regardless of legal clauses.
SS

rocco_7155 Loc: Connecticut/Louisiana

If this clause were in a set of "contest" rules sponsored by a commercial entity (detergent company, car manufacturer, retail chain, etc.), we'd all run the other way. Why is it thought of differently here? :hunf:

chaser48 Loc: Texas

You plays, you pays!!!!!!!!!!!!! And so it goes..............

Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business

This clause is used in contests sponsored by commercial entities all the time, it is also used by photobucket (who does use and sell images from their users all the time).

Musket Loc: ArtBallin'

Well its pretty clear there's not much in the line of revenue happening around these parts when you compare this TOS, to what Facebook does to your images, which is throw them into ads targeted at you or friends without giving you so much as a thanks.

I honestly do not mind posting my images here. While sure I give access to them, they are via [img] tags which allow me to just disable the content from its hosted site.

If you truly are scared of image content theft, stay off the internet.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Amen

Nightski

This quote from Admin backs up the supposition I made in my original post.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Those rules are in most contest. If you are an aspiring photog, it's just the rules of the game if you want the notoriety that come with prestigious competitions. The benefits are many.
You'll get absolutely nowhere, hoarding your pics in your computer. That's akin to owning stolen art, and it can't leave your basement.
Most Photogs will never earn a dime with their pics. So who cares who steals it.
If every body in the country stole my pic, and put it on their wall, would I not be the most famous photog in the country? Not a bad trade-off.
SS

Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY

Or, if you truly believe you have images worth stealing, copyright register them so you can sue and receive monetary damages should someone get rich off them. Something I don't have to worry about. :D

rocco_7155 Loc: Connecticut/Louisiana

I'd argue the "most contests" statement. I have often submit to contests and will not submit to those who require relinquishing my rights to the image. That being said, this has been brought up here long ago and I have posted here. Like Nightski said, track record and past practice allow for trust.